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Are you serious?
http://www.psacard.com/Services/PSAGradingStandards/ "N-7 Evidence of Cleaning - When a whitener is used to whiten borders or a solution is used to remove wax, candy, gum or tobacco stains." http://www.sgccard.com/grading_scale.htm "Bleached: Generic term for the chemical process of cleaning or removing stains or dirt." |
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People who play the lottery usually lose. Have you talked with Mrvintage? He seems to have the same problem as you do. Crack resubmit, crack resubmit, crack resubmit.......except he is unhappy with 9's. Are you happy with your grade now, or can we look forward to another post about cracking and resubmitting because the grade was " wrong "?
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The title of this thread is rhetorical...right?
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+1 foolish man
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To the OP, it seems like PSA got your card right 3 out of 3 times. You feel that it was NM-MT, PSA agreed with you the first time and gave you an 8 ST. You removed the stain and it got a 6. Perhaps a grader saw remnants of the stain (most likely scenario) and rightfully knocked the card down a bit. You still thought it was NM-MT and the third grader agreed (either he didn't see the stain or he saw it and felt that it wasn't enough to knock the card down a grade). This is just three separate opinions on the same card. All of the opinions were technically right. |
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I'll play your childish game. What is your definition of altering?
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So, I would consider "original form" as the way it came out of a pack/box/vending machine. So if it came out of the pack with a wax stain, that's how it was issued. I wouldn't consider removing glue residue from the back of a t206 card as altering because that wasn't how it was issued. Just like I wouldn't consider removing a price sticker from a card altering either, but I would consider removing wax stains as alterations. |
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Ahhh, ok. Got it. So, if I were to open a 1962 Topps wax pack and the cards were good, but the gum had deteriorated into dust, it wouldn’t be okay to wipe the gum dust from the cards if I wanted to submit them for grading? After all, that’s the “original form” as they came out of the pack. Wow, who knew?
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David, what is going on here this morning?
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Also, I never said altering a card isn't okay. Actually I specifically stated that I don't mind it. I think that we all need to use our best judgment as to what is ethical and reasonable, but small things (like removing wax stains or a price sticker or soaking a card) is alright in my book. I'm sure not too many people would mind if you wipe the gum dust off of a card ![]() |
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I don't see a single thing wrong with removing a surface wax stain on the front with a silk stocking which is the preferred method.The reverse wax stain removal is a completely different story.
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So Turtle, are you happy with the grade now?
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Turtleguy is very happy.I had to prove a point with PSA graders,cost me more bucks to prove that one of their graders is not focusing on his job.Case closed.
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