From REA to Ebay in less than 12 hours

[Peter_Spaeth]

Not sure I see the issue here.

[scooter729]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Not sure I see the issue here.

Not sure it's so much of an issue, but I'm curious why someone who has a massive mega-collection (the likes of which I'm surely jealous) would want to be doing all of this flipping for a few hundred dollars here and there, if and when a buyer is found. It just doesn't seem worth it for someone who has such a huge collection, but maybe that's just me...

I was an underbidder on one of those items, so I actually do find it annoying to see the person who outbid me did it solely for the purpose of trying to flip it the next day. So yeah, he's free to do what he wants, but it's just more annoying to see why I was outbid.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by scooter729

Not sure it's so much of an issue, but I'm curious why someone who has a massive mega-collection (the likes of which I'm surely jealous) would want to be doing all of this flipping for a few hundred dollars here and there, if and when a buyer is found. It just doesn't seem worth it for someone who has such a huge collection, but maybe that's just me...

I was an underbidder on one of those items, so I actually do find it annoying to see the person who outbid me did it solely for the purpose of trying to flip it the next day. So yeah, he's free to do what he wants, but it's just more annoying to see why I was outbid.

I just don't get that. I bet a high percentage of items in any auction are bought by people with the intention to resell.

[cyseymour]

You own it, you can do what you want with it.

[ullmandds]

Well if someone buys it now Dan can buy a plane ticket with some of his profits and fly over to REA to pick it up tomorrow... Then send it t0 the winner... Simple as that!

[scooter729]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I just don't get that. I bet a high percentage of items in any auction are bought by people with the intention to resell.

I doubt it's a "high" percentage which are bought with the intent to immediately re-sell. Of course some are bought for that reason, and I likely may sell some of my things at some point (I'm not planning to be buried with these cards).

But I would be really surprised if it's a high percentage of items which are bought solely for the intent to immediately resell.

Originally Posted by scooter729

I doubt it's a "high" percentage which are bought with the intent to immediately re-sell. Of course some are bought for that reason, and I likely may sell some of my things at some point (I'm not planning to be buried with these cards).

But I would be really surprised if it's a high percentage of items which are bought solely for the intent to immediately resell.

Still not sure why it matters what he, or anyone else for that matter, chooses to do with his or her merchandise?

[freakhappy]

Not sure that the OP said he had an issue with it. I think it was more of a "hey, look at this" type of thing.

I agree with some here that say if you can make money off of reselling an item, why not??

[Shoeless Moe]

Exactly, I flip myself....was just pointing it out......just the quickness of it to Ebay, and the comments on here made it worthy of conversation.

[bobbyw8469]

Still not sure why it matters what he, or anyone else for that matter, chooses to do with his or her merchandise?

It doesn't. Some of us just think it is funny though. Sort of like the commercial where someone bids on and wins a work of art through an auction house (presumably Sotheby's) then wants to turn around and immediately run it back through the exact same auction. I think that commercial is funny, as I think the immediate flip before one even has his items in hand is funny as well.

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

It doesn't. Some of us just think it is funny though. Sort of like the commercial where someone bids on and wins a work of art through an auction house (presumably Sotheby's) then wants to turn around and immediately run it back through the exact same auction. I think that commercial is funny, as I think the immediate flip before one even has his items in hand is funny as well.

I see where you're coming from. I guess its less noteworthy for a nickel and dimer like myself because I do that all the time...its what keeps the hobby viable for me on a modest income

[bobbyw8469]

Loves it!!!!! LOL!..........hey.....at least they are changing venues!

[glchen]

There's a part of selling where you always need to regularly bring in fresh, new inventory. When I've done this in the past, I've always found that my old, stale stuff often gets another look from potential buyers.

[Bicem]

Well at least he's not listing stuff that's in the current Heritage auction.

[danmckee]

Hello everyone. I thought I would explain myself a little here as many of you are good friends and know me well and would wonder why I am doing this.

Not really concerned with flipping as most of my oddball stuff is priced high as you can see.

I buy alot of stuff for myself as I did the recent REA lots. So I stick them in my ebay store which costs me nothing and if someone wants them more than I do then so be it.

My ultimate goal is to get most of my collection up in my store eventually.

Of course I haven't even got my show stock half up yet so I may die first of old age.

Any way, my ebay store is basically a place to showcase some of my neat stuff which I have done with some of my rare T206s that I really do not want to part with.

Remember, I didn't want to part with the Aplpha's but they are gone.

Happy Collecting everyone!

Dan Mckee - Darby-s on ebay

[barrysloate]

That is Dans nicest and sweetest post ever!

[MVSNYC]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

That is Dans nicest and sweetest post ever!

+1

As several people have mentioned above, someone must've hacked into Dan's Net54 account and is posting for him. (Hi Dan).

[Leon]

Originally Posted by danmckee

Hello everyone. I thought I would explain myself a little here as many of you are good friends and know me well and would wonder why I am doing this.

Not really concerned with flipping as most of my oddball stuff is priced high as you can see.

I buy alot of stuff for myself as I did the recent REA lots. So I stick them in my ebay store which costs me nothing and if someone wants them more than I do then so be it.

My ultimate goal is to get most of my collection up in my store eventually.

Of course I haven't even got my show stock half up yet so I may die first of old age.

Any way, my ebay store is basically a place to showcase some of my neat stuff which I have done with some of my rare T206s that I really do not want to part with.

Remember, I didn't want to part with the Aplpha's but they are gone.

Happy Collecting everyone!

Dan Mckee - Darby-s on ebay

You're just an ole fuddy duddy....we know you. I too have listed stuff for sale with high prices because I didn't want to sell. Two years ago at the National I did it with one full case. One guy argued with me for at least 30 minutes about trading for a card I had 10k on. I told him cash only and I was firm on it. He never understood even AFTER I told him I didn't really want to sell. He kept on saying, "but you have a price on it" and I kept on saying, "because everyone keeps asking but I don't want to sell".......He couldn't grasp the concept.

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by Leon

You're just an ole fuddy duddy....we know you. I too have listed stuff for sale with high prices because I didn't want to sell. Two years ago at the National I did it with one full case. One guy argued with me for at least 30 minutes about trading for a card I had 10k on. I told him cash only and I was firm on it. He never understood even AFTER I told him I didn't really want to sell. He kept on saying, "but you have a price on it" and I kept on saying, "because everyone keeps asking but I don't want to sell".......He couldn't grasp the concept.

Exactly Leon! and if anyone wants to hit the BIN please feel free as I will have the items in hand quicker than you can imagine! I pride myself on fast shipping!

[ScottFandango]

Originally Posted by danmckee

Hello everyone. I thought I would explain myself a little here as many of you are good friends and know me well and would wonder why I am doing this.

Not really concerned with flipping as most of my oddball stuff is priced high as you can see.

I buy alot of stuff for myself as I did the recent REA lots. So I stick them in my ebay store which costs me nothing and if someone wants them more than I do then so be it.

My ultimate goal is to get most of my collection up in my store eventually.

Of course I haven't even got my show stock half up yet so I may die first of old age.

Any way, my ebay store is basically a place to showcase some of my neat stuff which I have done with some of my rare T206s that I really do not want to part with.

Remember, I didn't want to part with the Aplpha's but they are gone.

Happy Collecting everyone!

Dan Mckee - Darby-s on ebay

thanks for the response..

this seems to be happening more and more on EBAY...its becoming a place to showcase items, with no intention of selling them (thus very high prices)

I have thought that this is what many people use ebay for, but your are the first to admit it...

it has nothing to do with you, but I get frustrated weaving through all the overpriced BIN from people who only want to show them off..

ebay should make a new area that allows people to do this, like Zillow has "make me an offer I cant refuse"...that way it doesn't get into the same spot of things that actually are trying to be sold and clutter them up...

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by ScottFandango

thanks for the response..

this seems to be happening more and more on EBAY...its becoming a place to showcase items, with no intention of selling them (thus very high prices)

I have thought that this is what many people use ebay for, but your are the first to admit it...

it has nothing to do with you, but I get frustrated weaving through all the overpriced BIN from people who only want to show them off..

ebay should make a new area that allows people to do this, like Zillow has "make me an offer I cant refuse"...that way it doesn't get into the same spot of things that actually are trying to be sold and clutter them up...

Oh I can completely sympathize with this statement. I have worked my way around this issue as a buyer by "blocking" certain sellers from my global searches.

There is a place on the advanced search when you are setting up a global search say like "T206", where you can list certain sellers to block.

There are a few sellers that list mainly mainstream pre-war cards and are very high in my opinion and the same stuff keeps popping up so I have these blocked on my searches.

To avoid my items you would just need to block darby-s as a seller.

I hope this helps

take care
Dan

[1880nonsports]

if someone did a BIN now - how would Dan handle it? I'm sure he knows what he's doing (at least in this arena :-) hi Dan). I ask because I once sold something I had won in an auction to someone the NEXT DAY before I even got the invoice. They had no idea the item wasn't in my possesion. I ASSUMED it would come in (x) amount of time and allowed for a couple extra days for the item to get to me. I had get the item in a timely fashion, worry about it not being LOST or damaged on the way to me, and it being everything is was listed to be. It was a 2500.00 item so no small change (to me at least) and I was selling it to someone who trusted me and whose relationship was important to me. After a couple of days sweating it out - I realized I put myself in a bad position all by myself. The item ended up coming in a reasonable amount of time - no harm - no foul the deal was concluded. I never did that again....................

[prestigecollectibles]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Not sure I see the issue here.

His Ebay listing states, Delivery: Estimated on or before Thu. Oct. 24 to 33351

So unless he is picking up the items from REA tomorrow how could I expect delivery (by First Class Mail) by the stated time if I did a BIN today?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by prestigecollectibles

His Ebay listing states, Delivery: Estimated on or before Thu. Oct. 24 to 33351

So unless he is picking up the items from REA tomorrow how could I expect delivery (by First Class Mail) by the stated time if I did a BIN today?

In a world of altered cards, shilled auctions, jacked up scans and lying auction houses, I can live with that. Besides, it says estimated.

[z28jd]

I collect Dots Miller cards, so that E125 is interesting for a couple reasons. One is that they used his picture from the T206, took the bat out of his hands and put a ball and glove in there instead. Never noticed that. The reason I never noticed it is because I never really looked close. I have no interest in the set due to price and it is off by a lot for me. When I saw the opening bid was $300, I said that's about 6x what I'd pay. Don't see the appeal of that set, might just be me though. $300 just seems like a ton for a die cut like that.

I thought the pose change was cool though. Here is the full picture they used for the T206, you can see it's the same

http://www.t206themonster.com/T206-Miller.html

[1880nonsports]

not easy to re-sell items from Edwards and Legendary so quickly. It's most often that the price with vig is high and the item has been seen by most of them what's interested. There are exceptions. One of my favorite dealers got his start at shows going from dealer's table to dealer's table making sales from one to the next. It takes great knowledge of the items and the market. Same case here although sometimes someone has second thoughts about an item they didn't win and will pony up to get it. Mostly it's about the passage of time - at least for me. I don't deal on the "whale scale" - or have connections to celebrities (other than Leon) and the "closet buyers" - a market in which "quick flips" from a prestiege auction might be successful.

[bobbyw8469]

not easy to re-sell items from Edwards and Legendary so quickly

+1. It would be different if it was from a less followed auction. But come on - we are talking about one of the biggest auction houses in the game. You are trying to market your items to the exact same pool of bidders that saw the auction last night. Now, if some decent time had elapsed, I might not place a bet. As it stands now, I'm selling short.

[ullmandds]

there are a number of people...many on this board...who have attempted to employ this business model over the years...they'll buy something from one of the big auction houses...then put it in the BST the next day...or week at an overinflated price.

I've always wondered WTF these people are thinking? WE're all looking at these auctions together...discussing them ad nauseum on this and other sites. If I didn't want to pay what it sold for in the big auction house...why would I now want it for 30-50% more?!

I'm sure Dan thought it was a good deal and doesn't mind having it in his inventory for a while...and that's fine...but those that think they'll sell these "flips" overnight...that's just crazy!

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by prestigecollectibles

His Ebay listing states, Delivery: Estimated on or before Thu. Oct. 24 to 33351

So unless he is picking up the items from REA tomorrow how could I expect delivery (by First Class Mail) by the stated time if I did a BIN today?

Hi Robert, when you buy from me you can expect delivery when I state it. Please see my feedback.

I just sold an item today from the REA auction and guess what......

It ships tomorrow promptly!!!

Who's your daddy????????????????????

[gnaz01]

Folks, don't question Dan (hey buddy), his integrity has never been an issue. If says he will deliver, HE WILL, plain and simple!!