AROD May Be Banned from Baseball?!?!

[barrysloate]

A-Rod has officially been banned through the end of the 2014 season...although it goes into effect August 8. Can't imagine he'll play the next three games, but who knows.

It's fair to say his career is over. Is he really going to come back right before his 40th birthday after having missed two whole seasons?

[bbsports]

If George was alive today, what would he do with A-Rod?

[t206blogcom]

So he'll fight it and end up with a lifetime ban, which he deserves in my opinion.

[nolemmings]

They will tweak it downward as a result of the appeal, either the arbitrator himself or by a consensual agreement. They're handing him a what, 211 game suspension? Seems a little arbitrary if not capricious, doesn't it? If Selig wants to use the best interests of baseball clause of the CBA, go ahead and watch the manure fly; otherwise, by what authority do you discipline a previously unpunished player 211 games?

[CaramelMan]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

They will tweak it downward as a result of the appeal, either the arbitrator himself or by a consensual agreement. They're handing him a what, 211 game suspension? Seems a little arbitrary if not capricious, doesn't it? If Selig wants to use the best interests of baseball clause of the CBA, go ahead and watch the manure fly; otherwise, by what authority do you discipline a previously unpunished player 211 games?

I think said he got so many games because he tried to interfere with their investigation and he was the ring leader of biogenesis...and it was the third time he was caught...

MLB drug tests were antiquated..any player could take stuff that wouldnt be detected...."I never failed a drug test" is no longer a valid player argument..
MLB wised up and finally acted without a drug test (which rarely worked).

[nolemmings]

MLB wised up and finally acted without a drug test (which rarely worked).

That's the point--they can't. They can't bargain and sign off on a document that says this is what will happen if you fail a drug test--first, second and third time--and then outright ignore what's in the document and, as importantly, impose what is not in the document. If you want to say that an admission or conviction is the same as a failed drug test, fine, then let's see where that goes. Then if you want to say you did it three times and therefore we can stack these offenses and treat them as three then try that--sounds arbitrary as hell to me, especially since you know those other offenders violated on more than one simple occasion and are being treated differently, and no one previously has been treated in this manner. Even then, though, you have to show me where it says three strikes equals 211 games-- it doesn't. If you think you have four or more offenses, show me what the punishment is then. If there is anything on point, I seriously doubt it says 211 games.

Finally, if you want to throw that impeding investigation stuff in there then show me what authority allows you to suspend for that. If it's the best interests of baseball clause, then bring it on and let (most) everything out in the open as would be allowed under a challenge to the CBA. Selig did not invoke that clause.

[pgellis]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

They will tweak it downward as a result of the appeal, either the arbitrator himself or by a consensual agreement. They're handing him a what, 211 game suspension? Seems a little arbitrary if not capricious, doesn't it? If Selig wants to use the best interests of baseball clause of the CBA, go ahead and watch the manure fly; otherwise, by what authority do you discipline a previously unpunished player 211 games?

Todd,
I couldn't agree with you more. He is getting more than 4x the amount of games as the other players. Now, if he were given a 50 game ban along with the others, I'm fairly confident he would take his punishment like the rest of them. But they are trying to make a statement with him. It is very arbitrary and will not fly. The best interest of baseball clause is too vague and will not stand.

I heard today that the result of his appeal will not be determined until November. So, he will be playing for the rest of the 2013 season.

It's funny how Yankee fans want him banned for life because of his contract. If he were playing great or only making $ 1 million, it wouldn't be a big deal to Yankee fans.

The funniest thing is that when he hits 14 more HRs, he will pass Willie Mays and be due another $6 million bonus for passing Mays. Atta boy Hank Steinbrenner, serves him right for trying to profit off an ARod run to break the career HR record.

[CMIZ5290]

Interesting, but I heard he was suspended until the end of the 2014 season. Has anyone heard anything different?

[EvilKing00]

FULL DISCLOUSURE: Im NOT a Yankee fan, I actually hate the Yankees.

He should of been given a 50 game just like everyone else. He didn't and never has (at least when it counted) tested positive. Everyone got 50. no wait , Braun got 65. OK, Braun did test positive, got caught, got off lied cost a innocent guy his job and got 65 days.

Arod should get 50. BUT.....

If MLB gave him 50 or even 65 im sure he would of gotten suspended, weather he accepted it asap, or if he appealed it he would of lost. but, whit this just DUMB 211 game suspension, I think he may and should win his appeal.

What rule has a 211 game suspension? I have heard the 50, 100 and even a life time ban. But each you still need to test positive. MLB I think has shot them selves in the foot. You make the rules you should play by them.

[CharleyBrown]

Steve,

From my understanding, the lengthy suspension was not just due to the PEDs, but due to his blatant attempts to destroy evidence and cover up his wrongdoings in order to interfere with any sort of investigation.

Originally Posted by EvilKing00

FULL DISCLOUSURE: Im NOT a Yankee fan, I actually hate the Yankees.

He should of been given a 50 game just like everyone else. He didn't and never has (at least when it counted) tested positive. Everyone got 50. no wait , Braun got 65. OK, Braun did test positive, got caught, got off lied cost a innocent guy his job and got 65 days.

Arod should get 50. BUT.....

If MLB gave him 50 or even 65 im sure he would of gotten suspended, weather he accepted it asap, or if he appealed it he would of lost. but, whit this just DUMB 211 game suspension, I think he may and should win his appeal.

What rule has a 211 game suspension? I have heard the 50, 100 and even a life time ban. But each you still need to test positive. MLB I think has shot them selves in the foot. You make the rules you should play by them.

[ullmandds]

Well...it looks like AROID is starting tonight...so about 1/2 of us/y'all were right...not me...I was hoping he'd never play again!!!

[EvilKing00]

Originally Posted by CharleyBrown

Steve,

From my understanding, the lengthy suspension was not just due to the PEDs, but due to his blatant attempts to destroy evidence and cover up his wrongdoings in order to interfere with any sort of investigation.

yea I know, but was that collectively bargained? Do they have a rule for that with a set number of days for suspension? Im really interested to see where they got the 211 days from...That's going to be an issue.