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View Poll Results: Will AROD ever play another MLB game again!
AROD WILL play in the MLB again. 89 53.29%
AROD is done...he will never play another MLB game again! 78 46.71%
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Old 08-05-2013, 04:30 PM
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Steve,

From my understanding, the lengthy suspension was not just due to the PEDs, but due to his blatant attempts to destroy evidence and cover up his wrongdoings in order to interfere with any sort of investigation.

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He should of been given a 50 game just like everyone else. He didn't and never has (at least when it counted) tested positive. Everyone got 50. no wait , Braun got 65. OK, Braun did test positive, got caught, got off lied cost a innocent guy his job and got 65 days.

Arod should get 50. BUT.....

If MLB gave him 50 or even 65 im sure he would of gotten suspended, weather he accepted it asap, or if he appealed it he would of lost. but, whit this just DUMB 211 game suspension, I think he may and should win his appeal.

What rule has a 211 game suspension? I have heard the 50, 100 and even a life time ban. But each you still need to test positive. MLB I think has shot them selves in the foot. You make the rules you should play by them.
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Old 08-05-2013, 04:58 PM
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Well...it looks like AROID is starting tonight...so about 1/2 of us/y'all were right...not me...I was hoping he'd never play again!!!
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Well...it looks like AROID is starting tonight...so about 1/2 of us/y'all were right...not me...I was hoping he'd never play again!!!

That wasn't the question. I would have hoped he didn't play again but I thought he would, so I voted that way.
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Old 08-05-2013, 06:40 PM
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He hit a single his first time up...bloop over the shortstop's head. I guess he'll take it.
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I bet Anthony Weiner is glad Arod is back.
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Steve,

From my understanding, the lengthy suspension was not just due to the PEDs, but due to his blatant attempts to destroy evidence and cover up his wrongdoings in order to interfere with any sort of investigation.
yea I know, but was that collectively bargained? Do they have a rule for that with a set number of days for suspension? Im really interested to see where they got the 211 days from...That's going to be an issue.
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yea I know, but was that collectively bargained? Do they have a rule for that with a set number of days for suspension? Im really interested to see where they got the 211 days from...That's going to be an issue.
They didn't pick 211 games....his offenses were so egregious, so much more than the other players, they suspended him for TWO seasons...the 211 is what is just happens to be...

It would have been 214 if it wasn't for the National....they had their decisions made by Friday but they were talked into waiting until the National was over...nothing to spoil card buying like steroids...thus the Monday announcement.

With Aroid, they never discussed the specific amount of games, they discussed in terms of YEARS.. They had that much evidence.

Notice not 1 of the other 12 players is fighting it, since they saw the conclusive evidence against them.

Just because it didn't go through a court or jury doesn't mean MLB has a weak case....they have an IRONCLAD case...MLBPA IS NOT FIGHTING ANYTHING, only AROID is fighting. His ego got hi in this mess and it continues to hurt him.
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In the passing conversations I have had with both the MLBPA General Counsel (I have taught his daughter for the last 2 years), and an MLB investigator working the case (family friend), MLB has a very strong case against A-Rod with evidence that goes well beyond the PEDs, and into obstruction.

I know that the MLBPA has advocated for A-Rod in a major way the past year, but I can't say I know exactly how the 211 game suspension was determined. I wouldn't be surprised if the MLBPA's patience is wearing thin with A-Rod, as he continues to pursue his own agenda. I believe Selig wants him out of baseball entirely, as he really is the posterchild of the PEDs era (that is still actively playing). I think they figure that if he's out for all of next season, it will be difficult for him to come back.

As he appeals the process, I think the # of games will drop, but he will at least miss all of next year.
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They didn't pick 211 games....his offenses were so egregious, so much more than the other players, they suspended him for TWO seasons...the 211 is what is just happens to be...

It would have been 214 if it wasn't for the National....they had their decisions made by Friday but they were talked into waiting until the National was over...nothing to spoil card buying like steroids...thus the Monday announcement.

With Aroid, they never discussed the specific amount of games, they discussed in terms of YEARS.. They had that much evidence.

Notice not 1 of the other 12 players is fighting it, since they saw the conclusive evidence against them.

Just because it didn't go through a court or jury doesn't mean MLB has a weak case....they have an IRONCLAD case...MLBPA IS NOT FIGHTING ANYTHING, only AROID is fighting. His ego got hi in this mess and it continues to hurt him.
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They didn't pick 211 games....his offenses were so egregious, so much more than the other players, they suspended him for TWO seasons...the 211 is what is just happens to be...

It would have been 214 if it wasn't for the National....they had their decisions made by Friday but they were talked into waiting until the National was over...nothing to spoil card buying like steroids...thus the Monday announcement.

With Aroid, they never discussed the specific amount of games, they discussed in terms of YEARS.. They had that much evidence.

Notice not 1 of the other 12 players is fighting it, since they saw the conclusive evidence against them.

Just because it didn't go through a court or jury doesn't mean MLB has a weak case....they have an IRONCLAD case...MLBPA IS NOT FIGHTING ANYTHING, only AROID is fighting. His ego got hi in this mess and it continues to hurt him.
yes I know they didn't "pick" 211, and they just didn't want to see him for the rest of this year and next, but is this in the rules to do so? other players didn't fight it cause they all got what the "rule" says 50 games. except for Brawn, who was out right loud and demanding he did nothing, DID fail a test and got some poor guy fired for doing nothing wrong. They 4x arod. Look im not saying he dosnt deserve it, just saying #1 is it leagle? #2 did MLB make a big mistake doing this, cause if the judge (arbitrator) sees this is too much im not sure, if either #1 - he can suspend him for a lesser amount of games OR if the case is just dismissed and arod gets set free.
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