Trying to identify new T206 underprints...or stamp.

[thehoodedcoder]

Originally Posted by steve B

It's also only one color out of several. Without context there's no way to tell if the print is angled, or if the hand and whatever the other items are were supposed to be angled on the item being printed.

That one has a normal impression and another an impression that's doubled means they weren't created on the same sheet.

Paper can also get caught in the press and get ruined in many ways, among them getting rotated, when that happens two corners get messed up very badly, the part of the sheet in the center is usually ok. But it gets partly printed "diamond shaped"

You'd think the result would be tossed in the trash, but not always. Stuff happens even with modern equipment and better QC. I've pulled a card from a modern pack that was entirely torn in half.

I won't get into the price argument, each misprint of this sort or the cylinder impressions "ghosts" on the back are unique or nearly so. Caption problems like Dopner are also very uncommon. 1-2 existing compared to 4-5 existing isn't much difference. (Although I think that number will increase for the caption mistakes) I don't have a problem with someone asking a lot for an item in that category. I have a few cards I paid silly prices for decades ago. for some it's worked out well, others not so well. The ones I passed up......
(Orr rookie from the test set, $100 which at the time was insane since I could get nearly all the other topps sets from 66-late 70's for that much. )

Steve B

as being someone that worked in a print shop for 4 years, its not worth the time to try and realign crumpled paper onto your neatly stacked pile of output. to try to cram it through a cutter. you simply have problems "jogging" the paper or aligning it properly in the cutter. you toss them in the garbage almost 100 percent of the time, unless they are numbered and or you need an exact count of them.

your suggesting that your back has a diamond print and it might be normal. i submit the question "how many fronts have a diamond print". i have yet to see one single example. show me a front and i will consider it plausible.

kevin