Trying to identify new T206 underprints...or stamp.

[Gradedcardman]

The price may be crazy but Darby-S is one of the best and most knowledgeable on this board. As he and many others say, if you don't like the price then move on but don't insult the seller with a lowball offer to just prove a point.

[npa589]

Originally Posted by Gradedcardman

The price may be crazy but Darby-S is one of the best and most knowledgeable on this board. As he and many others say, if you don't like the price then move on but don't insult the seller with a lowball offer to just prove a point.

+1

What some people need to do, before they comment on prices, is put their thoughts through the prism of "Do I know the reason for why they have the price so high?" I'll help you out and tell you that you don't know the exact answer. So, either move on or politely ask the seller why. There are a myriad of reasons why a seller may have a card for sale at what you perceive to be an insane price. What if they have no need for the money, and enjoy having it in their collection, but are listing it for 15 cents a month with a conditional approach of "If someone is willing to pay this price, then I would then be willing to give it up."?

Also, there is something with regard to reselling an item that is important with regard to taxation..., but that's a whole 'nother issue.

[mrvster]

In all due respect, I know the seller of that lot(Weimer,Joss, epdg m/c)...and believe it or not, his buy it now is not that far off....

Weimer is sister to mine....There are approx. 12 or less accounted for(ghost underprints).....There are the same amount of Brown Old Mills and Cobb Backs....These under print back ghosts are extremely, extremely rare and cool.....they are on a different level and would expect brown old mill or better pricing on them....

meaning, a 15 k price tag on that card alone presently would not be unheard of(especially relative to rare backs)......

Joss yellow brown is one of the nicest examples of yellow brown scrap....

Collectors may "think" there are a lot of yellow browns out here.....I estimate 80 or so.....that is rarer than drum my friend.......perceptually "common" to scrap, they are very rare......joss could bring 8 k plus at the right setting(rea) presently.....and future is the limit....


That 50/50 split back epdg is next to impossible....REA setting 6-8k EASY....maybe , SHOULD I DARE SAY, 10k??? why not....

15+10+8.....pure speculation.......not way off buy it now....I bet he'd get close to those in REA.....


THEY ARE JUSt that rare....

Dan's collection is sick.......60-80 on that lot would not be unheard of....and mark my words, future that will be a bargain.....no one realizes yet the uniqueness and rarity of these scraps....


the future looks bright as collectors become more educated....

[thehoodedcoder]

Originally Posted by mrvster

In all due respect, I know the seller of that lot(Weimer,Joss, epdg m/c)...and believe it or not, his buy it now is not that far off....

Weimer is sister to mine....There are approx. 12 or less accounted for(ghost underprints).....There are the same amount of Brown Old Mills and Cobb Backs....These under print back ghosts are extremely, extremely rare and cool.....they are on a different level and would expect brown old mill or better pricing on them....

meaning, a 15 k price tag on that card alone presently would not be unheard of(especially relative to rare backs)......

Joss yellow brown is one of the nicest examples of yellow brown scrap....

Collectors may "think" there are a lot of yellow browns out here.....I estimate 80 or so.....that is rarer than drum my friend.......perceptually "common" to scrap, they are very rare......joss could bring 8 k plus at the right setting(rea) presently.....and future is the limit....


That 50/50 split back epdg is next to impossible....REA setting 6-8k EASY....maybe , SHOULD I DARE SAY, 10k??? why not....

15+10+8.....pure speculation.......not way off buy it now....I bet he'd get close to those in REA.....


THEY ARE JUSt that rare....

Dan's collection is sick.......60-80 on that lot would not be unheard of....and mark my words, future that will be a bargain.....no one realizes yet the uniqueness and rarity of these scraps....


the future looks bright as collectors become more educated....

my dopner card is 1 of 4 or 5. that makes it rarer than all of the insanity you speak of here. i should list it for 150k since there is even less of them.

even if i listed it...it wouldn't sell at that price. its insulting in the reverse to see someone asking an absurd price on a card as it is to get 'lowballed' on an offer.

kevin

[David R]

Originally Posted by thehoodedcoder

my dopner card is 1 of 4 or 5. that makes it rarer than all of the insanity you speak of here. i should list it for 150k since there is even less of them.

even if i listed it...it wouldn't sell at that price. its insulting in the reverse to see someone asking an absurd price on a card as it is to get 'lowballed' on an offer.

kevin

+1 I totally agree Kevin.

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by mrvster

In all due respect, I know the seller of that lot(Weimer,Joss, epdg m/c)...and believe it or not, his buy it now is not that far off....

Weimer is sister to mine....There are approx. 12 or less accounted for(ghost underprints).....There are the same amount of Brown Old Mills and Cobb Backs....These under print back ghosts are extremely, extremely rare and cool.....they are on a different level and would expect brown old mill or better pricing on them....

meaning, a 15 k price tag on that card alone presently would not be unheard of(especially relative to rare backs)......

Joss yellow brown is one of the nicest examples of yellow brown scrap....

Collectors may "think" there are a lot of yellow browns out here.....I estimate 80 or so.....that is rarer than drum my friend.......perceptually "common" to scrap, they are very rare......joss could bring 8 k plus at the right setting(rea) presently.....and future is the limit....


That 50/50 split back epdg is next to impossible....REA setting 6-8k EASY....maybe , SHOULD I DARE SAY, 10k??? why not....

15+10+8.....pure speculation.......not way off buy it now....I bet he'd get close to those in REA.....


THEY ARE JUSt that rare....

Dan's collection is sick.......60-80 on that lot would not be unheard of....and mark my words, future that will be a bargain.....no one realizes yet the uniqueness and rarity of these scraps....


the future looks bright as collectors become more educated....

Said many times before only worth what somebody is willing to pay you for them.

I will agree the days of these major oddballs being sub one thousand dollar cards is long gone, however in terms of value for the BIN price if there was really a value or deal to be had they still wouldn’t be listed and would have sold already.

Cheers,

John

[Sean]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

Said many times before only worth what somebody is willing to pay you for them.

I agree. They're Dan's cards. He can ask whatever price he wants for them. And we are free to not buy them if we so choose. There is no need to feel insulted, this is simply business.

Now if you want insults, make Dan a lowball offer.

[thehoodedcoder]

Originally Posted by Sean

I agree. They're Dan's cards. He can ask whatever price he wants for them. And we are free to not buy them if we so choose. There is no need to feel insulted, this is simply business.

Now if you want insults, make Dan a lowball offer.

exactly...and they just sit there. its not a business if you don't sell anything.

its amusing. some cards have been there for 3 years. maybe not his but definitely some of his have been there for at least 2.

its annoying to have to continue to scroll past them day after day. its a waste of everyones time. cut everyone a break already. list the thing for real or delist it.


kevin