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View Poll Results: Were these guys the best of their time or not
Barry Bonds was one of the best of his time 73 65.18%
Barry bonds was NOT one of the best of his time 20 17.86%
Roger Clemens was one of the best of his time 80 71.43%
Roger Clemens was NOT one of the best of his time 14 12.50%
Gary sheffield was one of the best of his time 16 14.29%
Gary sheffield was NOT one of the best of his time 71 63.39%
derek jeter was one of the best of his time 79 70.54%
derek jeter was NOT one of the best of his time 19 16.96%
cal ripken jr was one of the best of his time 74 66.07%
cal ripken jr was NOT one of the best of his time 26 23.21%
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Not sure why this is in the pre-war section but, as the rules state, members can do some off topics. In that respect lets let this stay on the front page but everyone should be careful of what forum you are posting in, with respect to the subject matter. I have no clue about the question. (not to sound mean, but I really don't care )
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sry about where i put it. Question is about do you think these players were or were not the best of their time.

Sometimes people say bonds (lets say) should be in the HOF cause hes not the HR leader, or mays was better etc. Pleayer should and are supposed to be compared to the players of their time, not those who came before them or after them, IMO.
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Barry was certainly better at growing his head size than most all of his peers.
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Barry was certainly better at growing his head size than most all of his peers.
Ruth and Aaron FTW baby!!!

I would agree that Barry was one of the biggest A-holes of his era.
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Ruth and Aaron FTW baby!!!

I would agree that Barry was one of the biggest A-holes of his era.
lmao yes but thats not the question
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lmao yes but thats not the question
I never miss an opportunity to rip Barry a new one.
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All the players listed...suck.
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Im assuming youre joking here. How can anyone not love Ripken or Jeter?
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Im assuming youre joking here. How can anyone not love Ripken or Jeter?
Yes, in a way I'm joking...but seriously Ripken and Jeter couldn't collectively have carried Cobb's Jock strap.
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Yes, in a way I'm joking...but seriously Ripken and Jeter couldn't collectively have carried Cobb's Jock strap.
Agreed, but we are comparing them to the players , they played with, not of any before 1980
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How can anyone seriously say Bonds was not one of the best of his time?
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Yes, in a way I'm joking...but seriously Ripken and Jeter couldn't collectively have carried Cobb's Jock strap.
Completely different era. While Cobb is top 5 ever, I don't think he would've been as successful in today's game.

Jeter and Ripken were/are some of the best.
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okok, I think we have a decent sample size for the main point.

Take a look at some of these life time numbers, (some are of players we didnt vote on some are some that we did) I find the vote very interesting.

– 509 HR, .292 BA, 253 SB, .393 OBP

– 431 HR, .276 BA, .340 OBP

– 255 HR, 313 BA, 348 SB, .382 OBP

– 234 HR, .306 BA, 504 SB, .369 OBP

– 363 HR, .296 BA, .409 OBP
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Ripken and Jeter are class acts and deserve all the praise they receive......don't have much good to say about the other 3 doucebags you have listed. Barry Bonds was one the first guys to also get heavily into steroids around the mid 90's. I think he's a complete joke with the majority of his stats being inflated by the juice. He deserves NEVER to be voted into the hall of fame.
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come on.... seriously? Ripken and Jeter are what baseball should be about and have carried the torch from icons past.....
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Are you current with baseball or too stuck in pre-war?
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Are you current with baseball or too stuck in pre-war?
I would say stuck in prewar.....if we're talking Vietnam.

This may sound very strange to most here but I like baseball cards a lot more than I like baseball. Lost interest in the game when I discovered "hippie" life. Never lost interest in the cards though.

Last baseball game I went to was Denny Mclain winning 31 in 1968.
Last Hockey game was at Olympia waaaay before even goalies wore masks and helmets were unheard of. 1964.
Last football game was the lions when they played at Briggs Stadium 1959.
Last Basketball game was the Pistons when they played at Cobo Hall (Can't remember the year).
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I would say stuck in prewar.....if we're talking Vietnam.

This may sound very strange to most here but I like baseball cards a lot more than I like baseball. Lost interest in the game when I discovered "hippie" life. Never lost interest in the cards though.

Last baseball game I went to was Denny Mclain winning 31 in 1968.
Last Hockey game was at Olympia waaaay before even goalies wore masks and helmets were unheard of. 1964.
Last football game was the lions when they played at Briggs Stadium 1959.
Last Basketball game was the Pistons when they played at Cobo Hall (Can't remember the year).
Last super concert... Hendrix at Flint IMA (Front row center).
I too am into my cards more than the game. I'll bet Hendrix was amazing.
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This may sound very strange to most here but I like baseball cards a lot more than I like baseball. Lost interest in the game when I discovered "hippie" life. Never lost interest in the cards though.

Can't name 5 players today. Don't care. I can't stand current MLB but will watch it every now and then if my wife is watching it. I love collecting Pre-War cards and love the hobby though. There are a few of us but probably less than 1/2 of 1 percent. And for me it wasn't hippie stuff that got me less interested it was the strike and the high costs of going to a game. Add that to the fact that a lot of the MLB players are D-bags and there you have it. I still love to play softball and love the game in general. Bring on the minor leagues, now those games I love going to ....
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9 votes against Jeter?
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sry about where i put it. Question is about do you think these players were or were not the best of their time.
I think everyone understands the question. But none of these guys have pre-WWII cards of them. Had you put this in the correct forum, for Post 1980 cards, then it would be in the correct spot. But no big deal and good luck with the vote....

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I only follow these current players....Alex Rodriguez, Albert Pujols and Derek Jeter....but they have no special meaning to me....just like to see their stats go up. I use to like watching Ken Griffey Jr play as well and Nolan Ryan when I was a kid. Miguel Cabrera is also a fun player to watch.

In the end I simply watch baseball for baseball not any specific players.

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I think everyone understands the question. But none of these guys have pre-WWII cards of them. Had you put this in the correct forum, for Post 1980 cards, then it would be in the correct spot. But no big deal and good luck with the vote....

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thanks Leon im interested to see peoples thoughts on these specific players, and see how they understand and interpert the question.
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