T206 DRUM guide and UPDATED checklist

[ethicsprof]

great work!
i note that you mention that your first Drum was a Moeller.
Interestingly, my first Drum was also a Moeller!!!
all the best, ole buddy

barry

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by ethicsprof

great work!
i note that you mention that your first Drum was a Moeller.
Interestingly, my first Drum was also a Moeller!!!
all the best, ole buddy

barry

Hey good buddy....it's a small-small world......when identical scenarios occur regarding the same T206 DRUM card


Best regards,

T-Rex TED

[Abravefan11]

At this point I don't believe the A+B+C+D rule is concrete. I think it's a good way to look at the 190 subjects from a broad perspective but it isn't a hard and fast rule for every one of the subjects.

I'm skeptical that all 190 subjects were printed with Broad Leaf 350, and even more skeptical that they all were printed with Drum 350. I believe most were, but not all.

When it comes to the 37 print group 3 subjects that were printed with AB350NF, 34 have been confirmed with Drum 350. As scarce as Drum's are it's certainly possible that the other three could still be confirmed, but my belief right now is that they were not printed with a Drum back.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Abravefan11

At this point I don't believe the A+B+C+D rule is concrete. I think it's a good way to look at the 190 subjects from a broad perspective but it isn't a hard and fast rule for every one of the subjects.

I'm skeptical that all 190 subjects were printed with Broad Leaf 350, and even more skeptical that they all were printed with Drum 350. I believe most were, but not all.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion.
However, to date, with 190 subjects printed with the AB 350 (frame)....189 subjects with CY 350....166 subjects with BL 350....and, the scarcest of this A-B-C-D series,
DRUM 350, having 107 subjects, I'd say your skepticism is moot.
In fact, I'd say it is indicative of that ole "not invented here syndrome".

Originally Posted by Abravefan11

When it comes to the 37 print group 3 subjects that were printed with AB350NF, 34 have been confirmed with Drum 350. As scarce as Drum's are it's certainly possible that the other three could still be confirmed, but my belief right now is that they were not printed with a Drum back.

My research indicates that every AB 350 (no frame) subject that was printed with a BROAD LEAF 460 (BL 460) back will also be found with a DRUM back. Therefore,
let's consider the three AB 350 (no frame) subjects that have yet to be confirmed with the DRUM back......

Conroy (bat)
Mullin (bat)
Stahl (glove)

Conroy & Mullin both were also printed with the AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 back. Therefore, due to my "mutually exclusive" rule, I do not expect these 2 subjects to be
found with the BL 460 back....consequently there is a slim (or no) chance that they were printed with a DRUM back.

On the other hand, the Jake Stahl has been confirmed with the BL 460 back. And, I will bet that Stahl will eventually be found with the DRUM back.


TED Z

[Abravefan11]

Originally Posted by tedzan

In fact, I'd say it is indicative of that ole "not invented here syndrome".

Actually I suffer from "that information doesn't jive jibe" syndrome.

Ted - My opinion that the A+B+C+D not being a hard and fast rule isn't something new. I sent you a detailed email in 2010 explaining why I was skeptical of it. You said it was a lot to digest and that you would get back to me. Between then and now there haven't been the number of new Broad Leaf or Drum confirmations necessary to change my opinion, and you haven't gotten back to me. So for now I remain skeptical and my opinion is moot.

Any similarities between the AB350 (No Frame) subjects that were also printed with BL460 is mere coincidence. The two backs were printed with different groups of subjects and at different times. Coincidences between cherry picked subjects, from two different groups, will only lead to false conclusions. Even if Stahl is eventually confirmed with a Drum 350 it will just be a coincidence using your comparison.

[DerekMichael]

Cool thread Mr. Z. I love those Drums!

I know have seen a couple of Evers (CHI), but it was well out of my budget.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by DerekMichael

Cool thread Mr. Z. I love those Drums!

I know have seen a couple of Evers (CHI), but it was well out of my budget.

Hey Derek

Nice to hear from you. Tell your Dad that I will be calling him early next week.

Best regards,

TED Z

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Abravefan11

Between then and now there haven't been the number of new Broad Leaf or Drum confirmations necessary to change my opinion, and you haven't gotten back to me.

Have you forgotten the two considerable DRUM finds by Legendary Auction (Ron Oser) in St. Louis since 2010 ?

And, very recently a smaller DRUM find. All of which together contributed quite a number of new DRUM's that were added to our confirmed list.


TED Z

[Abravefan11]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Have you forgotten the two considerable DRUM finds by Legendary Auction (Ron Oser) in St. Louis since 2010 ?

And, very recently a smaller DRUM find. All of which together contributed quite a number of new DRUM's that were added to our confirmed list.


TED Z

Not at all.

Originally Posted by Abravefan11

Between then and now there haven't been the number of new Broad Leaf or Drum confirmations necessary to change my opinion, and you haven't gotten back to me. So for now I remain skeptical and my opinion is moot.