O/T feel sick inside - CT Elementary shooting

[yanks12025]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Brock-why do you want to own an assault rifle? What would you do with it?

I enjoy guns and think they're fun to shoot. I just think it would be cool to own a AK-47 or a M-16, but my real joy would be a Tommy gun(only single burst not fully).

[kmac32]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

I enjoy guns and think they're fun to shoot.

Still doesn't justify assault guns. If you want to see how good of a shot someone really is, try a muzzleloader.

[yanks12025]

Originally Posted by kmac32

Still doesn't justify assault guns. If you want to see how good of a shot someone really is, try a muzzleloader.

Ok so lets say someone goes and shoots up a school with a muzzleloader or a .22, should we then ban them??? Or like I mentioned already, say the guy drove his car through a group of kids and killed 15. Should cars be banned to a limit then? I'm sure more people are killed by stupid people driving a year then stupid people with guns.

[oldjudge]

Brock--you are raising an argument that has nothing to do with this. The question is if banning assault weapons would save lives and, to that question, I think the answer is yes.

[oldjudge]

"It is a pretty simple reasoning."

Actually, it's simple minded reasoning. What would the killer have done today? Run over his mother with a car. Then go to the school, wait for the kids to get out, and then try to run them over? My sense is that a lot of lives could have been saved if his weapon was a car instead of several guns.

[yanks12025]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

"It is a pretty simple reasoning."

Actually, it's simple minded reasoning. What would the killer have done today? Run over his mother with a car. Then go to the school, wait for the kids to get out, and then try to run them over? My sense is that a lot of lives could have been saved if his weapon was a car instead of several guns.

He could have stabbed them, created a bomb, etc. I'm sure a sicko could come up with other ways.

[Texxxx]

Most of the people here that are against ARs don't seem to be against other forms of guns. Why? In the US, assault rifles are not allowed to be fully automatic and the average rate of fire for a AR is 40-60 rpm. Anyone with some experience can take a semi automatic hand gun and shoot that many rounds off in a minute. Also most of the ARs shoot a NATO .223 with is very slightly larger than a .22. Where lots of hand guns shoot much larger shells and do much more damage. Please help me understand why you think ARs are so bad! Please give reasons and not emotions.

[Vintageismygame]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

"It is a pretty simple reasoning."

Actually, it's simple minded reasoning. What would the killer have done today? Run over his mother with a car. Then go to the school, wait for the kids to get out, and then try to run them over? My sense is that a lot of lives could have been saved if his weapon was a car instead of several guns.

He could have hacked her up with a $20 hatchet from Walmart and then spent another $50 or so and fire bombed the school.

[Kenny Cole]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

Ok so lets say someone goes and shoots up a school with a muzzleloader or a .22, should we then ban them??? Or like I mentioned already, say the guy drove his car through a group of kids and killed 15. Should cars be banned to a limit then? I'm sure more people are killed by stupid people driving a year then stupid people with guns.

That may be the single stupidest post of the day, if not the year. Do you serioiusly think the shooter is going to kill 27 people with a muzzleloader? If so, you are an idiot. If not, your post is disingenious at best. If you are going to argue the merits of owning assault rifles, at least come up with an argument that isn't completely ridiculous.

[kmac32]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

Ok so lets say someone goes and shoots up a school with a muzzleloader or a .22, should we then ban them??? Or like I mentioned already, say the guy drove his car through a group of kids and killed 15. Should cars be banned to a limit then? I'm sure more people are killed by stupid people driving a year then stupid people with guns.

Cars serve a purpose in general. A single shot 22 or muzzleloader have limited firepower so you wouldn't have mass murder. As I said before I do not propose a ban on guns in general. I advocate a ban on assault weapons. They really serve no purpose in any society unless you are in a battle or a war. Don't think that senario exists in a school or movie theater where people have been killed by idiots using these weapons. Unless you are a soldier somewhere in the world, what's the purpose?

[Paul S]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

I enjoy guns and think they're fun to shoot. I just think it would be cool to own a AK-47 or a M-16, but my real joy would be a Tommy gun(only single burst not fully).

A Texas Tommy would be more enjoyable.

[Vintageismygame]

No one is going to change my views or feelings towards my guns and I will probably not change yours so I will continue to conceal carry daily and purchase as many guns as I can. Why? Because that's what I enjoy.