O/T feel sick inside - CT Elementary shooting

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

Also he used two handguns, not a assault rifle which was left in the car.

And the fact that by some fortuity he did that, and it wasn't even worse than it was, means assault rifles are a good thing?

[yanks12025]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

And the fact that by some fortuity he did that, and it wasn't even worse than it was, means assault rifles are a good thing?

Again the guy would have found other ways to kill people without guns.

[Peter_Spaeth]

"If the guy didn't have a gun, he would have found other means to kill people."

Other than McVeigh, how many of these mass murderers have used any means other than guns? Just curious.

[William Todd]

This is horrific but it has happened in Western Europe, many times.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I thought when we went through this last time we found data showing the murder rates were much much lower in Western Europe and places like Canada and Australia, and weren't some of the Western European episodes terrorism, but if I am wrong I stand corrected.

[Texxxx]

Taking a SHIT on the Bill of Rights is not going to fix the problem. There have been mass murders in this world since the beginning of time. It didn't start when the US gave the people the right to bear arms.

[oldjudge]

Times are different than when the Bill of Rights was written. Maybe it needs to be updated. There is no reason for private citizens to own assault rifles or semi-automatic weapons (which by the way didn't exist when the Bill of Rights was written).

[yanks12025]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Times are different than when the Bill of Rights was written. Maybe it needs to be updated. There is no reason for private citizens to own assault rifles or semi-automatic weapons (which by the way didn't exist when the Bill of Rights was written).

Why shouldn't a private citizen be able to own a assault rifle. I would like to own one and someday I will buy one. But it doesn't mean I plan on killing others with it.

[wazoo]

Allowing minors, to be exposed to gruesome games like Call of Duty does not help either.

[yanks12025]

Originally Posted by wazoo

Allowing minors, to be exposed to gruesome games like Call of Duty does not help either.

Again video games are not the problem, it's crazy people.

Also if i did buy a assault rifle, it would be when im back in the country and could shot in my back yard and not in a urban area.

[oldjudge]

Brock-why do you want to own an assault rifle? What would you do with it?

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Brock-why do you want to own an assault rifle? What would you do with it?

This is the best post I've seen today. True, I'm on my second pint at the local pub, but this is still hilarious.

I'm visualizing Brock using his assault rifle and the Red Sox are involved.

[yanks12025]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Brock-why do you want to own an assault rifle? What would you do with it?

I enjoy guns and think they're fun to shoot. I just think it would be cool to own a AK-47 or a M-16, but my real joy would be a Tommy gun(only single burst not fully).

[kmac32]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

I enjoy guns and think they're fun to shoot.

Still doesn't justify assault guns. If you want to see how good of a shot someone really is, try a muzzleloader.

[Paul S]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

I enjoy guns and think they're fun to shoot. I just think it would be cool to own a AK-47 or a M-16, but my real joy would be a Tommy gun(only single burst not fully).

A Texas Tommy would be more enjoyable.

[Vintageismygame]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Brock-why do you want to own an assault rifle? What would you do with it?

They are great deer, bear, elk, boar hunting guns.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Vintageismygame

They are great deer, bear, elk, boar hunting guns.

Isn't it more challenging to hunt with a less lethal weapon? I mean haven't people been hunting since time immemorial without assault rifles?

[oldjudge]

An assault rifle is a rapid-fire, magazine-fed automatic rifle designed for infantry use. Sounds like there are more appropriate ways to deer hunt.

[tiger8mush]

My heart goes out to the families of loved ones lost in Connecticut today. Poor kindergarteners My oldest is in kindergarten.

guns - i don't own one but don't believe they should be banned. How many people did Ted Bundy kill? How many did he kill with a gun?

I agree with Scott and others - lets try to understand WHY those who want to kill think that way, and start there. Taking away peoples freedoms isn't the answer. Fix the problem, not the symptom.

god - I don't buy the argument that taking god out of school has anything to do with an increase in violence. How many wars were started because of "religion"? Probably a good portion.

violent video games - not the problem

baseball cards - not the problem

I do believe loving family helps. But even then there are cases of people's heads just not ticking right. Need to better understand WHY and see if there is a way to help them before something like this happens. Very tragic, I feel for the surviving parents and siblings who will be looking for answers. WHY? I'd give my life to bring back those kids, thats for sure.

edited to add: p.s. can we drop the assault weapon discussion? it has NOTHING to do with what happened today. N-O-T-H-I-N-G. Today would've happened with or without a ban on assault weapons

[yanks12025]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

"If the guy didn't have a gun, he would have found other means to kill people."

Other than McVeigh, how many of these mass murderers have used any means other than guns? Just curious.

What about the Bath School Bombing where 45 people were killed(38 kids).

[yanks12025]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

"If the guy didn't have a gun, he would have found other means to kill people."

Other than McVeigh, how many of these mass murderers have used any means other than guns? Just curious.

http://news.yahoo.com/children-stabb...084449002.html

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

http://news.yahoo.com/children-stabb...084449002.html

Yes it can be done, not saying it can't, but which do you think is more likely to result in more deaths all things being equal: a guy with multiple guns or a guy with a knife?

[yanks12025]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Yes it can be done, not saying it can't, but which do you think is more likely to result in more deaths all things being equal: a guy with multiple guns or a guy with a knife?

Well you're talking about banning assault rifles. Even though he didn't use a assault rifle. Either way, what ever weapon he used or the other people have used before too many innocent people have died for nothing.