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Old 11-07-2012, 05:40 PM
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Default I just wonder, over time . . .

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It use to be the best of the all around best only got in.

Eventually, relief pitching specialists got in.

Then, defensive specialists got in.

Someday, HOF entrance by a pure designated hitter ?

Maybe there's still hope for Edgar Martinez, over time.
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Old 11-08-2012, 04:06 PM
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It use to be the best of the all around best only got in.

Eventually, relief pitching specialists got in.

Then, defensive specialists got in.

Someday, HOF entrance by a pure designated hitter ?

Maybe there's still hope for Edgar Martinez, over time.
Edgar and Frank Thomas. Although Thomas started out at 1B, he certainly was no 1st baseman. No doubt he deserves to be in the HOF though...

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Old 11-08-2012, 05:23 PM
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You think 500 HRs will cease to be basically an automatic pass into the HOF?
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Old 11-08-2012, 05:49 PM
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You think 500 HRs will cease to be basically an automatic pass into the HOF?
Steve,
That's a very good question. I'm not sure, but it certainly calls into question virtually all players that hit 500 HR's during the steroid era.
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Old 11-08-2012, 05:53 PM
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When I look at the crop of 500 HR players over the past 15 years, I'm not thinking "Hall of Fame caliber" for many of them. Even putting steroids aside, it seems like many of them just clung on long enough to hit the mark without ever being a truly superior player.
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:39 PM
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When I look at the crop of 500 HR players over the past 15 years, I'm not thinking "Hall of Fame caliber" for many of them. Even putting steroids aside, it seems like many of them just clung on long enough to hit the mark without ever being a truly superior player.
Exhibit A Sheffield, Gary
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Old 11-09-2012, 08:54 AM
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You think 500 HRs will cease to be basically an automatic pass into the HOF?
Adam Dunn is 33 and over his decline years (the past three) has still averaged nearly 25 HRs a year. He's got a shot at 500HR with no shot whatsoever at the HOF. What would be a close comparison to him; Dave Kingman?
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:24 AM
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If you take his career offensive WAR and extrapolate that out will he is 38 (estimated retirement age), he sits at about 45 WAR, putting him in the Carlos Delgado, Sosa, Rusty Staub area, which means he aint getting into the hall.
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:41 PM
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Adam Dunn is 33 and over his decline years (the past three) has still averaged nearly 25 HRs a year. He's got a shot at 500HR with no shot whatsoever at the HOF. What would be a close comparison to him; Dave Kingman?
I wouldn't say last year was a decline year, it was probably one of the greatest, if not the greatest, year to year production difference. Quadrupled HR total, runs, RBI's, pretty much every offensive stat, Big Donkey is back.
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I wouldn't say last year was a decline year, it was probably one of the greatest, if not the greatest, year to year production difference. Quadrupled HR total, runs, RBI's, pretty much every offensive stat, Big Donkey is back.

He didn't quadruple his strikeout totals (only 222 this year). He'll only get into the Hall if he fans more than Nolan Ryan.
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He didn't quadruple his strikeout totals (only 222 this year). He'll only get into the Hall if he fans more than Nolan Ryan.
Haha yeah I guess
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