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Old 11-07-2012, 09:41 AM
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But it's waaaaay more likely a guy will get in based on great offensive talent versus great defensive talent. Ted Williams wasn't a great defensive player by any means nor was he great baserunner. He simply could hit the s*** out of the ball and got in based on that.

There were very few guys that exiled on both sides of the 'ball.'
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:43 AM
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But it's waaaaay more likely a guy will get in based on great offensive talent versus great defensive talent. Ted Williams wasn't a great defensive player by any means nor was he great baserunner. He simply could hit the s*** out of the ball and got in based on that.

There were very few guys that exiled on both sides of the 'ball.'
Good point, Williams was an awful fielder but if he was on my team I wouldn't care WHAT he did in the outfield between innings...lol, Take a nap get a massage , eat a sandwich. Whatever he did would be fine with me. Heck I would have set up a picnic table and Bar-B-Q pit in the outfield if he wanted it. Plus he had Dom who could (and did play his and Ted's position)

On that same note I used to watch Reggie Jackson play every day when he was with the Yankees and EVERY FLY BALL WAS AN ADVENTURE ! Worst outfielder I ever saw in my life did far more harm than good with his defensive "skills" and he made it in the HOF on what ? First ballot ?
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Good point, Williams was an awful fielder but if he was on my team I wouldn't care WHAT he did in the outfield between innings...lol, Take a nap get a massage , eat a sandwich. Whatever he did would be fine with me. Heck I would have set up a picnic table and Bar-B-Q pit in the outfield if he wanted it. Plus he had Dom who could (and did play his and Ted's position)

On that same note I used to watch Reggie Jackson play every day when he was with the Yankees and EVERY FLY BALL WAS AN ADVENTURE ! Worst outfielder I ever saw in my life did far more harm than good with his defensive "skills" and he made it in the HOF on what ? First ballot ?
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If ever there was a one-tool player in the HoF, it's Reggie.

What a joke.

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Old 11-07-2012, 05:40 PM
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Default I just wonder, over time . . .

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It use to be the best of the all around best only got in.

Eventually, relief pitching specialists got in.

Then, defensive specialists got in.

Someday, HOF entrance by a pure designated hitter ?

Maybe there's still hope for Edgar Martinez, over time.
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Old 11-08-2012, 04:06 PM
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It use to be the best of the all around best only got in.

Eventually, relief pitching specialists got in.

Then, defensive specialists got in.

Someday, HOF entrance by a pure designated hitter ?

Maybe there's still hope for Edgar Martinez, over time.
Edgar and Frank Thomas. Although Thomas started out at 1B, he certainly was no 1st baseman. No doubt he deserves to be in the HOF though...

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Old 11-08-2012, 05:23 PM
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You think 500 HRs will cease to be basically an automatic pass into the HOF?
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Old 11-07-2012, 05:48 PM
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If ever there was a one-tool player in the HoF, it's Reggie.

What a joke.
He became a one-tool player after leaving the A's...for whom he was a decent, perhaps not great RF with one of the best arms in the league. Maybe it was the weightlifting, maybe all the late nights but his defense did go downhill rapidly in pinstripes.
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I heard he was known to have a big head. Probably effected his balance in the outfield.
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Old 11-08-2012, 02:42 AM
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He became a one-tool player after leaving the A's...for whom he was a decent, perhaps not great RF with one of the best arms in the league. Maybe it was the weightlifting, maybe all the late nights but his defense did go downhill rapidly in pinstripes.
I agree 100 percent MooseDog. I don't think the east coast fans on here saw him much when he played for the A's.
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