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Old 11-06-2012, 09:10 PM
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I think sometimes people forget that defense has traditionally been more important than offense in the game of Baseball's history. According to superstar players from an 1894 survey NED WILLIAMSON was the greatest player to ever play the game up to that point. 100% because of his defense. There are lots of defensive specialist in the hall and now we look at them all and think they were bad choices but its because defense was looked upon as much more important that offense throughout the 1950's. Modern stats and offensive obsession are a modern thing and the only person in the last 30 years who has overcome that is Ozzie Smith.

I would have no problem with Marion, or most of those guys. Mullane is not getting in (which is sad) because he was supposedly a racist (who wasn't racist in 19th century America i'd like to know) and the committe is specifically instructed to look into their character as a requirement.

I bet they vote in some insignificant guy like Ruppert or Breaden and nobody cares as a result.

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Old 11-07-2012, 05:33 AM
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I think sometimes people forget that defense has traditionally been more important than offense in the game of Baseball's history. According to superstar players from an 1894 survey NED WILLIAMSON was the greatest player to ever play the game up to that point. 100% because of his defense. There are lots of defensive specialist in the hall and now we look at them all and think they were bad choices but its because defense was looked upon as much more important that offense throughout the 1950's. Modern stats and offensive obsession are a modern thing and the only person in the last 30 years who has overcome that is Ozzie Smith.

I would have no problem with Marion, or most of those guys. Mullane is not getting in (which is sad) because he was supposedly a racist (who wasn't racist in 19th century America i'd like to know) and the committe is specifically instructed to look into their character as a requirement.

I bet they vote in some insignificant guy like Ruppert or Breaden and nobody cares as a result.

Rhys
Ozzie Smith and Mazeroski.

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Old 11-07-2012, 08:20 AM
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Ozzie Smith and Mazeroski.

Ken

Don't think so.

And I'd have to suspect that Mike Schmidt's defensive prowlness + power hitting stats helped to overlook his .267 career batting average.

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Old 11-07-2012, 08:37 AM
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Finally some love for Wes Parker. Jim, Wes was my favorite player as a kid and his defense was not lost on us L.A. Dodger fans. I believe besides his 6 gold gloves he also won 2 Diamond gloves over in Japan.
There have been some fantastic firstbaseman that came after him, so that's saying a lot that he made the all time team.
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Old 11-08-2012, 04:03 PM
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Don't think so.

And I'd have to suspect that Mike Schmidt's defensive prowlness + power hitting stats helped to overlook his .267 career batting average.
Hitting over 500 HR's in a career and no PED's in sight doesn't hurt much either!
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