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Old 05-04-2011, 04:33 PM
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Still looking for any new inputs (or any corrections) to these lists. Please check out your T206's and compare them with these lists.

Thanks again for your time and effort.

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I would hope that folks who have information and can help will be forthcoming with it. There is no way to make corrections, additions or deletions if no one comes forward.
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Default T206

Still cannot find a CB Carrigan. I looked through all of the major auction house records that I could find and had no luck. Great work Ted.

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Ted --

I see that you have 408 as the number for possible Sovereign cards, but I typed them all out and came up with 478. Here's my list - what did I screw up?

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T206 Sovereign Backs Collection

Sovereign 150 Back (150 Only Series)

1) Ames (Hands at Chest)
2) G. Brown (Chicago)
3) M. Brown (Cubs on Shirt)
4) Burch (Batting)
5) Donlin (Fielding)
6) L. Doyle (Throwing)
7) Evers (Bat, Cubs on Shirt)
8) Pattee
9) Pelty
10) Powers
11) Reulbach (Glove Shows)

Sovereign 150 Back (150/350 Series)

12) Abbaticchio (Brown Sleeves)
13) Alperman
14) Ames (Portrait)
15) Ball (New York)
16) Bates
17) Beaumont
18) Bell (Hands Above Head)
19) Bender (Portrait)
20) Bergen (Batting)
21) Birmingham
22) Bowerman
23) Bradley (Portrait)
24) Bransfield
25) Bresnahan (Portrait)
26) Bridwell (Portrait, No Cap)
27) M. Brown (Portrait)
28) Camnitz (Arms Folded)
29) Chance (Portrait Red)
30) Chase (Portrait Pink)
31) Chase (White Cap)
32) Chesbro
33) Cicotte
34) F. Clarke (Portrait)
35) F. Clarke (Holding Bat)
36) J.J. Clarke (Cleveland)
37) Cobb (Portrait, Green)
38) Cobb (Bat on Shoulder)
39) Conroy (Fielding)
40) Covaleski
41) Crandall (Portrait, No Cap)
42) Crawford (Throwing)
43) Criger
44) Criss
45) Dahlen (Boston)
46) G. Davis (Chicago)
47) H. Davis (H. on Front)
48) J. Delehanty (Wash)
49) Devlin
50) Donlin (Seated)
51) Donohue
52) Donovan (Portrait)
53) Dooin
54) Doolin
55) Dougherty (Portrait)
56) Durham
57) Elberfeld (NY)
58) Evers (Portrait)
59) Ewing
60) Ferris
61) Flick
62) Ganley
63) Gibson
64) Gilbert
65) Goode
66) Griffith (Portrait)
67) Hahn
68) Hemphill
69) Herzog (New York)
70) B. Hinchman (Cleveland)
71) Isbell
72) Jacklitsch
73) Johnson (Portrait)
74) T. Jones (St. Louis)
75) F. Jones (Portrait)
76) F. Jones (Hands on Hips)
77) T. Jordan (Portrait)
78) Joss (Portrait)
79) Karger
80) Keeler (Portrait)
81) Keeler (Batting)
82) Killian (Pitching)
83) Klienow (With Bat)
84) Kling
85) Konetchy (Glove High)
86) Lajoie (Portrait)
87) Lajoie (Throwing)
88) Lake (New York)
89) Leach (Portrait)
90) Leifield (Pitching)
91) Liebhardt
92) Lindamon
93) Lobert
94) Lumley
95) Magee (Portrait)
96) Manning (Batting)
97) Marquard (Hands at Th)
98) Mathewson (Portrait)
99) Mathewson (White Cap)
100) McGraw (Portrait, No Cap)
101) McGraw (Finger in Air)
102) H. McIntyre (Brooklyn)
103) McQuillan (Ball in Hand)
104) Merkle (Portrait)
105) Mullin (Throwing)
106) Murphy (Throwing)
107) Nicholls
108) Niles
109) Oldring (Fielding)
110) O’Leary (Portrait)
111) Overall (Portrait)
112) Owen
113) Parent
114) Pastorius
115) Powell
116) Richey
117) Rucker (Portrait)
118) Schaefer (Detroit)
119) Schlei (Catching)
120) Schmidt (Throwing)
121) Schulte (Front View)
122) Seymour (Batting)
123) A. Shaw (St. Louis)
124) Sheckard (No Glove)
125) Shipke
126) F. Smith (F on Front)
127) Spade
128) Spencer
129) Stahl (No Glove)
130) Steinfeldt (Portrait)
131) Stone
132) Stovall (Portrait)
133) Sullivan
134) L. Tannehill (L on Front)
135) Tenney
136) Tinker (Portrait)
137) Tinker (Hands on Knees)
138) Turner
139) Waddell (Portrait)
140) Waddell (Throwing)
141) He. Wagner (Bat on Left)
142) Wallace
143) Walsh
144) Weimer
145) D. White (Portrait)
146) Wilhelm (Hands at Chest)
147) Williams
148) Willis (Pittsburg)
149) Wiltse (Portrait, No Cap)
150) C. Young (Portrait)
151) C. Young (Bare Hand)

Sovereign 350 Back (150/350 Series)

152) Abbaticchio (Brown Sleeves)
153) Alperman
154) Ames (Portrait)
155) Bates
156) Bell (Hands Above Head)
157) Bender (Portrait)
158) Birmingham
159) Bresnahan (Portrait)
160) Bridwell (Portrait, No Cap)
161) M. Brown (Portrait)
162) Camnitz (Arms Folded)
163) Chance (Portrait Red)
164) Chase (White Cap)
165) Cicotte
166) F. Clarke (Holding Bat)
167) Cobb (Bat on Shoulder)
168) Crawford (Throwing)
169) Criger
170) Criss
171) G. Davis (Chicago)
172) Devlin
173) Donlin (Seated)
174) Donohue
175) Donovan (Portrait)
176) Dooin
177) Dougherty (Portrait)
178) Elberfeld (NY)
179) Evers (Portrait)
180) Ferris
181) Flick
182) Goode
183) Griffith (Portrait)
184) Isbell
185) Jacklitsch
186) Johnson (Portrait)
187) F. Jones (Portrait)
188) F. Jones (Hands on Hips)
189) Joss (Portrait)
190) Keeler (Batting)
191) Klienow (With Bat)
192) Kling
193) Lajoie (Portrait)
194) Leifield (Pitching)
195) Liebhardt
196) Magee (Portrait)
197) Manning (Batting)
198) Mathewson (Portrait)
199) Mathewson (White Cap)
200) McGraw (Portrait, No Cap)
201) McGraw (Finger in Air)
202) Merkle (Portrait)
203) Murphy (Throwing)
204) Nicholls
205) Niles
206) Oldring (Fielding)
207) O’Leary (Portrait)
208) Parent
209) Schaefer (Detroit)
210) Seymour (Batting)
211) Sheckard (No Glove)
212) Shipke
213) F. Smith (F on Front)
214) Spade
215) Stahl (No Glove)
216) Stone
217) Stovall (Portrait)
218) Sullivan
219) Tenney
222) Tinker (Hands on Knees)
221) Turner
222) Waddell (Portrait)
223) Waddell (Throwing)
224) Wallace
225) Walsh
226) Weimer
227) D. White (Portrait)
228) Willis (Pittsburg)
229) Wiltse (Portrait, No Cap)
230) C. Young (Portrait)
231) C. Young (Bare Hand)

Sovereign 350 Back (350 Only Series)

232) Abbott
233) Anderson
234) Armbruster
235) Arndt
236) Atz
237) J. Barry (Philadelphia)
238) S. Barry (Milwaukee)
239) Batch
240) Beck
241) Beckley
242) Bender (Portrait with Trees)
243) Bescher (Portrait)
244) Blackburne
245) Brain
246) G. Brown (Washington)
247) Burke
248) Burns
249) Bush
250) Butler
251) Byrne
252) Campbell
253) Carr
254) Carrigan
255) Casey
256) Cassidy
257) Chapelle
258) Clancy
259) E. Collins (Philadelphia)
260) J. Collins (Minneapolis)
261) Congalton
262) Cravath
263) Cree
264) Dahlen (Brooklyn)
265) Dineen
266) Donovan (Throwing)
267) Doolan (Fielding)
268) Downey (Fielding)
269) Downs
270) J. Doyle (NY on Front)
271) Dubuc
272) Ja. Dunn (Baltimore)
273) Jo. Dunn (Brooklyn)
274) Dygert
275) Easterley
276) Egan
277) Ferguson
278) Fiene (Portrait)
279) Fiene (Throwing)
280) Flanagan
281) Fromme
282) Gasper
283) P. Graham (Boston)
284) Grimshaw
285) Hall
286) Hallman
287) Hannifan
288) Hartsel
289) H. Hinchman (Toledo)
290) Hoblitzell
291) I. Hoffman (Toledo)
292) S. Hofman
293) D. Howard (Chicago)
294) Howell (Portrait)
295) Huggins (Portrait)
296) Hulswitt
297) Jackson
298) Jennings (Portrait)
299) Kelley
300) Killian (Portrait)
301) Kisinger
302) Kleinow (NY Catching)
303) Knabe
304) Knight (Portrait)
305) Knight (With Bat)
306) Krause (Portrait)
307) Krause (Pitching)
308) Kroh
309) Kruger
310) Lavender
311) Lennox
312) Livingston
313) Malarkey
314) Marquard (Portrait)
315) McCormick
316) McGann
317) McGinley
318) McGinnity
319) McGlynn
320) M. McIntyre (Detroit)
321) Merritt
322) Milligan
323) M. Mitchell (Cincinnati)
324) F. Mitchell (Toronto)
325) Moeller
326) P. Moran (Chicago)
327) H. Moran (Providence)
328) Moriarity
329) Mowrey
330) Myers (Fielding)
331) Nichols
332) Oakes
333) Oberlin
334) O’Brien
335) O’Hara (New York)
336) O’Neil
337) Paskert
338) Perring
339) Pfeister (Seated)
340) Phelan
341) Phelps
342) Pickering
343) Poland
344) Purtell
345) Quillen
346) Quinn
347) Randall
348) Raymond
349) Rhoades (Rt Arm Out)
350) Rhoades (Hand at Chest)
351) Rossman
352) Schmidt (Portrait)
353) Scott
354) H. Shaw (Providence)
355) Slagle
356) F. Smith (White Cap)
357) He. Smith (Buffalo)
358) Speaker
359) Stanage
360) Stephens
361) Strang
362)Street (Portrait)
363) Summers
364) B. Sweeney (Boston)
365) J. Tannehill (Washington)
366) Taylor
367) Thielman
368) Thomas
369) Titus
370) Unglaub
371) Warhop
372) J. White (Buffalo)
373) Wilson
374) Wright
375) I. Young (Minneapolis)
376) Zimmerman

Sovereign 350 Back (350/460 Super Print Series)

377) Chance (Portrait, Yellow)
378) Chase (Portrait, Blue)
379) Chase (Dark Cap)
380) Cobb (Portrait, Red)
381) Evers (Chi. Shirt)
382) Mathewson (Dark Cap)

Sovereign 460 Back (350/460 Super Print Series)

383) Chance (Portrait, Yellow)
384) Chase (Portrait, Blue)
385) Chase (Dark Cap)
386) Cobb (Portrait, Red)
387) Evers (Chi. Shirt)
388) Mathewson (Dark Cap)

Sovereign 350 Back (350/460 Regular Print Series)

389) Ames (Hands Above)
390) Baker
391) Bender (Port, no trees)
392) Berger
393) Bradley (Batting)
394) M. Brown (Chi on shirt)
395) Burch (Fielding)
396) Cobb (Bat off Shoulder)
397) Conroy (With Bat)
398) Crawford (With Bat)
399) Davis (Phil, Davis on Front)
400) Donlin (With Bat)
401) Doolan (Batting)
402) Dougherty (Arm in Air)
403) Downey (Batting)
404) Doyle (With Bat)
405) Elberfeld (Wash, Fielding)
406) Griffith (Batting)
407) Jennings (One Hand Shows)
408) Jennings (Two Hands Show)
409) Johnson (Pitching)
410) T. Jordan (Brook, Batting)
411) Joss (Pitching)
412) Konetchy (Glove Low)
413) Lajoie (With Bat)
414) Lake (St. Louis, No Ball)
415) Leach (Bending Over)
416) Leifield (Batting)
417) Magee (With Bat)
418) Manning (Pitching)
419) H. McIntyre (Brooklyn and Chicago)
420) McQuillan (Batting)
421) Mullin (With Bat)
422) Murphy (Batting)
423) O’Leary (Hands on Knees)
424) Overall (Hand Face High)
425) Pelty (Vertical)
426) Pfeister (Throwing)
427) Reulbach (No Glove)
428) Rucker (Throwing)
429) Seymour (Throwing)
430) Snodgrass (Catching)
431) Stahl (Glove Shows)
432) Steinfeldt (With Bat)
433) Street (Catching)
434) J. Sweeney (New York)
435) Tinker (Bat Off Shoulder)
436) He. Wagner (Bat on Rt)
437) D. White (Pitching)
438) Wilhelm (With Bat)
439) Willetts
440) Willis (With Bat)
441) Willis (Throwing)
442) Wiltse (Pitching)
443) C. Young (Glove Shows)

Sovereign 460 Back (350/460 Regular Print Series)

444) Abbaticchio (Blue Sleeves)
445) Ball (Cleveland)
446) Bell (Follow Through)
447) Bergen (Catching)
448) Bescher (Hands in Air)
449) Bridwell (Portrait with Cap)
450) Camnitz (Hands Above)
451) Camnitz (Arm at Side)
452) Chance (Batting)
453) Chase (Holding Trophy)
454) Crandall (Portrait with Cap)
455) Devore
456) Doyle (Portrait)
457) Duffy
458) Ford
459) Frill
460) Gandil
461) Geyer
462) Herzog (Boston)
463) Howell (Hands at Waist)
464) Hummel
465) Lake (Ball in Hand)
466) Latham
467) Marquard (Follow Through)
468) McGraw (Portrait with Cap)
469) McGraw (Glove at Hip)
470) Merkle (Throwing)
471) Meyers
472) Murray (Portrait)
473) Needham
474) Oldring (Batting)
475) Overall (Hands at Waist)
476) Payne
477) Pleffer
478) Schaefer (Washington)
479) Schlei (Portrait)
480) Schlei (Batting)
481) Schulte (Back View)
482) Seymour (Portrait)
483) Sheckard (Glove Shows)
484) H. Smith (Brooklyn)
485) Stovall (Batting)
486) Tannehill (Chicago, No L.)
487) Tinker (Bat On)
488) Wheat
489) Wiltse (Portrait with Cap)

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Ted --

I added the ones you found, plus found three numbering errors...I believe I have it correct now at 489 for a Sovereign Master List. I'll edit the one above to reflect the changes for anybody that wants it...

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I would hope that folks who have information and can help will be forthcoming with it. There is no way to make corrections, additions or deletions if no one comes forward.
Leon - There is no way to make accurate corrections, additions or deletions if the administrator of the list is unwilling to make those changes even when presented with the proper information. This has lead several collectors/researchers like myself to stop participating in this project.
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Leon - There is no way to make accurate corrections, additions or deletions if the administrator of the list is unwilling to make those changes even when presented with the proper information. This has lead several collectors/researchers like myself to stop participating in this project.
Ok. This was stated several years ago, but was never addressed. So what is the deal?
Very informative thread, but what is meant by this comment? What exactly are we talking about?
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Ok. This was stated several years ago, but was never addressed. So what is the deal?
Very informative thread, but what is meant by this comment? What exactly are we talking about?
Conflicts of opinion Jimmy, that's all.

Quite a few members are working on reconstructing a T206 sheet and when you get that many people all working toward the same goal, you're bound to have a few conflicts of opinion.

I can't speak for Tim, but that's about the best way I can explain it.


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Ok. This was stated several years ago, but was never addressed. So what is the deal?
Very informative thread, but what is meant by this comment? What exactly are we talking about?

FYI....I have assembled the info in this thread from 100's and 100's of Net54 contributers's inputs since 2005 when I began conducting these T206 surveys.

Therefore, the comment you are inquiring about from this one person is not of any practical relevance.

And, perhaps that is why no one in the past 4 years has responded to his claim.


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Default Ty Cobb / "TY COBB" Tobacco

Please note that I have included the red Cobb with the "TY COBB" back to the above list.

I personally feel that this card should be classified as a T206. Others on this forum may differ with this, and that is fine.


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I still don't put T213-1 or T215 into the T206 set. There is definitive proof in the ACC. But I am not going to get my panties in a wad either.

I am on the fence concerning the Cobb back...
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Default Hi Leon

I know I'm not going to persuade you regarding the 1910 COUPON cards as T206's....much less the T215-1 cards as T206's.

Anyhow, it is nice to know that you are considering the Ty Cobb / TY COBB card as a possible member of the T206 "family".


And that's fine....like I once said to you some years ago....we live in a 1/3 rd world


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