FYI....T206 AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 fr..350 nofr..460 confirmed lists

[tedzan]

DATED Oct 6, 2020




The first of these three AMERICAN BEAUTY backs (AB 350 frame) was printed and issued in the Summer of 1910.



AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 (frame)......190 confirmed cards....COMPLETE

Abbott
Abstein
Adkins
Anderson
Arellanes
Armbruster
Arndt
Atz
Barbeau
Barry (A's)
Barry (Milw)
Batch
Beck
Becker
Beckley
Bender (trees)
Bescher (portrait)
Blackburne
Bliss
Brain

Brashear
Bresnahan (bat)
Burchell
Burke
Burns
Bush
Butler
Campbell
Carr
Carrigan
Casey
Cassidy
Chance (portrait-yellow)
Chappelle
Charles
Chase (portrait-blue)
Chase (dark cap)
Clancy
Clark
Clymer

Cobb (portrait-red)
Collins (A's)
Congalton
Cravath
Cree
Davidson
Delehanty (Louisville)
Dessau
Dineen
Donovan (throwing)
Doolan (fielding)
Dorner
Downey (fielding)
Downs
Dubuc
Dunn (Baltimore)
Dunn (Brooklyn)
Dygert
Easterly
Egan

Engle
Evers (bat-yellow sky)
Ferguson
Fiene (portrait)
Fiene (throwing)
Flanagan
Fletcher
Freeman
Fromme
Ganzel
Gasper
Graham (Boston)
Graham (St Louis)
Grimshaw
Hall
Hallman
Hannifan
Hartsel
Hayden
Hinchman (Toledo)

Hoblitzell
Hoffman (Providence)
Hoffman (St Louis)
Hofman
Howard (Chicago)
Howell (portrait)
Huggins (portrait)
Huggins (hands/mouth)
Hulswitt
Hunter
Jackson
Jones (Detroit)
Kelley
Killian (portrait)
Kisinger
Knabe
Knight (portrait)
Knight (bat)
Krause (portrait)
Krause (pitching)

Kroh
Kruger
Laporte
Lattimore
Lavender
Lennox
Livingstone
Lord
Maddox
Malarkey
Maloney
Marquard (portrait)
Marshall
Mathewson (dark cap)
McAleese
McBride
McCormick
Mc Elveen
McGann
McGinley

McGinnity
McGlynn
McIntyre (Detroit)
Merritt
Milan
Miller (Pittsburg)
Milligan
Mitchell (Cinci)
Mitchell (Toronto)
Moeller
Moran (Chicago)
Moran (Providence)
Moriarty
Mullin (portrait)
Murray (bat)
Myers (bat)
Myers (fielding)
Nattress
Oakes
Oberlin

O'Brien
O'Neill
Paskert
Perring
Pfeister (seated)
Phelan
Phelps
Phillippe
Pickering
Poland
Purtell
Quillen
Quinn
Randall
Raymond
Rhoades (hands/chest)
Rhodes
Ritter
Rudolph
Schirm

Schlafly
Schmidt (portrait)
Schreck
Scott
Sharpe
Shaw (Providence)
Slagle
Smith (Buffalo)
Snodgrass (bat)
Speaker
Stanage
Starr
Stephens
Strang
Street (portrait)
Summers
Sweeney (Boston)
J. Tannehill (Washington)
Taylor
Thielmann

Thomas
Titus
Unglaub
Warhop
White (Buffalo)
Willett
Wilson
Wright
Irv Young
Zimmerman




AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 (no frame).....37 confirmed cards. Printed and issued in the Fall of 1910....COMPLETE

Baker
Bender (no trees)
Burch (fielding)
Conroy (bat)
Crawford (bat)
Doolan (bat)
Downey (bat)
Larry Doyle (bat)
Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)
Griffith (bat)
Jennings (two hands)
Johnson (pitching)
Jordan (bat)
Konetchy (glove low)
Lake (no ball)
Leifield (bat)
Magee (bat)
Manning (pitching)
McQuillan (bat)
Mullin (bat)

Murphy (bat)
Nichols (bat)
Overall (yellow sky)
Pelty (vertical)
Pfeister (throwing)
Reulbach (no glove)
Rucker (bat)
Seymour (throwing)
Stahl (glove)
Steinfeldt (bat)
Street (catching)
Sweeney (fielding)
Wagner (bat on right)
Wilhelm (bat)
Willets
Willis (bat)
Wiltse (pitching)




AMERICAN BEAUTY 460.......74 (total) confirmed cards. Printed and issued in early 1911....COMPLETE

350/460 Series..................28 cards COMPLETE


Berger
Bradley (bat)
Burch (fielding)
Cobb (bat off)
Conroy (bat)
Crawford (bat)
Jennings (one hand)
Jennings (two hands)
Jordan (bat)
Lajoie (bat)
Lake (no ball)
Leach (cap)
Leifield (bat)
Manning (pitching)
McQuillan (bat)
Mullin (bat)
Overall (yellow sky)
Pelty (vertical)
Pfeister (throwing)
Smith (Chicago & Boston)

Steinfeldt (bat)
Tinker (bat off)
Wagner (bat on right)
Doc White (pitching)
Wilhelm (bat)
Willetts
Willis (bat)
Wiltse (pitching)


460-only Series..................46 cards COMPLETE

Abbaticcio (blue sleeves)
Ball (Cleveland)
Bell (pitching)
Bescher (arms above)
Bergen (catching)
Bridwell (portrait-cap)
Camnitz (arms above head)
Camnitz (arm at side)
Chance (bat)
Chase (trophy)
Crandall (portrait-cap)
Devore
Doyle (portrait)
Duffy
Ford
Gandil
Geyer
Herzog (Boston)
Howell (hands at waist)
Hummell

Lake (with ball)
Latham
Marquard (follow thru)
McGraw (portrait-cap)
McGraw (glove at hip)
Merkle (throwing)
Meyers (portrait)
Murray (portrait)
Needham
Oldring (bat)
Overall (blue sky)
Payne
Pfeffer
Schaefer (Washington)
Schulte (back view)
Schlei (portrait)
Schlei (bat)
Seymour (portrait)
Sheckard (glove)
F. Smith (Chicago & Boston)

H. Smith (Brooklyn)
Stovall (bat)
Tannehill (Chicago)
Tinker (bat on)
Wheat
Wiltse (portrait-cap)


TED Z

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[tedzan]

Double post.

[White Borders]

Hi Ted,

Thanks so much for posting this list. However, when I count the cards you have listed as 350 Frame, I come up with only 190. Also, Mc Elveen is listed twice, so that makes the list 189, which is 3 short of 192 confirmed cards.

Best Regards,
Craig

[tedzan]

Thanks for checking that out.....my typo errors.

The AB 350 (frame) list has been corrected to reflect 192 cards.

And, although I've included Mowery, I am not confident that this card
was printed with the AB 350 (frame) back.


TED Z

[White Borders]

Based on Ted Z's list of American Beauty confirmed cards, I've put together a list of cards that appear to be AB No-Prints. If you can confirm any of them as having an American Beauty back, please let us know.

Thanks and Best Regards,
Craig


AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 (Frame)...21 No-Prints

Cy Barger...Portrait...Rochester
George Brown...Batting...Washington
Bobby Byrne...Batting...StL Cardinals
Jimmy Collins...Portrait...Minneapolis
Monte Cross...Ready to Throw...Indianapolis

Bill Dahlen...Portrait...Brooklyn
Ray Demmitt...Standing...NY Highlanders
Joe Doyle...NY...NY Highlanders
Kid Elberfeld...Portrait...Washington
Dolly Gray...Follow Thru...Washington

Bob Groom...Follow Thru...Washington
Red Kleinow...Catching...NY Highlanders
Carl Lundgren...Ready to Throw...Kansas City
Al Mattern...Portrait...Boston Doves
Larry McLean...Catching...Cincinnati

Bill O'Hara...Batting...NY Giants
Ambrose Puttman...Follow Thru...Louisville
Bob Rhoades...Right Arm...Cleveland
Claude Rossman...Portrait...Detroit
Spike Shannon...Fielding...Kansas City
Frank Smith...White Cap...Chi White Sox


AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 (No Frame)...20 No-Prints

Red Ames...Hands above Head...NY Giants
Heinie Berger...Ready to Throw...Cleveland
Bill Bradley...Batting...Cleveland
Mordecai Brown...Chicago on Shirt...Chi Cubs
Ty Cobb...Bat off Shoulder...Detroit

Harry Davis...Davis on Front...Phil A's
Mike Donlin...Batting...NY Giants
Patsy Dougherty...Fielding (Arm Up)...Chi White Sox
Hughie Jennings...One Hand Showing...Detroit
Addie Joss...Pitching...Cleveland

Nap Lajoie...Batting...Cleveland
Tommy Leach...Fielding...Pittsburgh
Harry McIntyre...Follow Thru...Brooklyn & Chi
Charles O'Leary...Fielding...Detroit
Fred Snodgrass...Catching...NY Giants

Joe Tinker...Bat off Shoulder...Chi Cubs
Doc White...Throwing...Chi White Sox
Kaiser Wilhelm...Batting...Brooklyn
Vic Willis...Throwing...StL Cardinals
Cy Young...Glove...Cleveland


AMERICAN BEAUTY 460...30 No-Prints

Home Run Baker...Follow Thru...Phil A's
Chief Bender...No Trees...Phil A's
Mordecai Brown...Chicago on Shirt...Chi Cubs
Harry Davis...Davis on Front...Phil A's
Mike Donlin...Batting...NY Giants

Mickey Doolan...Batting...Phil Phillies
Patsy Dougherty...Fielding (Arm Up)...Chi White Sox
Tom Downey...Batting...Cincinnati
Larry Doyle...Batting...NY Giants
Kid Elberfeld...Fielding...Washington

John Frill...Follow Thru...NY Highlanders
Clark Griffith...Batting...Cincinnati
Walter Johnson...Pitching...Washington
Addie Joss...Pitching...Cleveland
Red Kleinow...Catching...Boston Red Sox

Ed Konetchy...Glove Low...StL Cardinals
Sherry Magee...Batting...Phil Phillies
Harry McIntyre...Follow Thru...Brooklyn & Chi
Danny Murphy...Batting...Phil A's
Simon Nichols...Batting...Phil A's

Charles O'Leary...Fielding...Detroit
Ed Reulbach...No Glove...Chi Cubs
Nap Rucker...Pitching...Brooklyn
Cy Seymour...Pitching...NY Giants
Fred Snodgrass...Catching...NY Giants

Jake Stahl...Glove Showing...Boston Red Sox
Gabby Street...Catching...Washington
Jeff Sweeney...Fielding...NY Highlanders
Vic Willis...Throwing...StL Cardinals
Cy Young...Glove...Cleveland

[tedzan]

29 of the 30 cards you are looking for with AB 460 backs will NOT be found. All 29 of these cards
are 350/460 series subjects, which have been confirmed with the Red HINDU backs. The AB 460
subjects and the Red HINDU subjects are mutually exclusive in the 350/460 series.

John Frill is a 460-only card. He was transferred to Jersey City in the Eastern League in July 1910,
well before the AB 460 were printed in the Spring of 1911. So, I don't think we will find him with
an AB 460 back.


Best regards,

TED Z

[White Borders]

Yes, it is very unlikely that those will be found with an AB460 back. But, the engineer in me says that because this mutual exclusion principle (for 350/460 Series, fronts with AB460 backs will also be found with Uzit backs, but won't be found with BL460 or Red Hindu backs) is based on a sample of the population rather than the entire population of T206's ever produced, there remains a statistical (though perhaps very slight) uncertainty in the mutual exclusion principle.

And if we state that these will not be found with an AB460 back, then people will be less likely to look for them; thus reducing the chance of finding an exception to the principle if there is one. Kinda like in quantum physics where the act of observing affects the observation.

This is all the more important with T206 because exceptions to the rules have been demonstrated. Some examples include:

The 150 Only group does not have any Sweet Cap 150 Factory 649 Overprint backs EXCEPT for Powers.

The 350 Only group has AB350 (Frame) backs EXCEPT for Nichols Batting, which has an AB350 (No Frame) back.

The 350-460 group have all been confirmed with Piedmont 350-460 Factory 42 backs EXCEPT for Tinker Bat Off.


And please understand that it is not my intention to demean your work in any way. We would not have achieved our current level of understanding of T206 without your efforts.

Always Best Regards
Craig

[tedzan]

Regarding your......
"....is based on a sample of the population rather than the entire population of T206's ever produced, this
mutual exclusion principle (for 350/460 Series, fronts with AB460 backs will also be found with Uzit backs,
but won't be found with BL460 or Red Hindu backs) "

From an engineer (EE) to an engineer....my "mutually exclusive" rules (AB 460/UZIT vs BL 460/Red HINDU)
are not simply based on the sampling of certain populations of T206 cards. The more significant factor that
I based these rules on.....is timeline.

We have American Litho. (ALC) documentation that dates the printing and release of the UZIT cards to the
Spring of 1911. The AB 460 cards were destined to Durham, NC (Factory 42); therefore, they were printed
simultaneously with the UZIT cards. I am suggesting that sheets of T206's (comprised of approx. 30 cards)
with the same fronts were printed with both these backs.

Prior to that, in the Fall/Winter of 1910, ALC used sheets of T206 fronts (comprised of approx. 30 cards) to
print both the BL 460 and the Red HINDU backs on them.

Furthermore, the 30 subjects on the AB 460/UZIT sheets complemented the 30 subjects of the BL 460/Red
HINDU sheets. Of course, this scenario applies only to the 55 cards in the 350/460 series and the 6 super-
prints. Certainly, the absence of any of these 6 super-prints with AB 460 and UZIT backs serves to support
this theory.


Craig

The Nicholls (batting) card was intended to be a 350/460 series subject; so, this is why this card was
printed with an AB 350 (No Frame) back. However, upon being traded to Cleveland, Nicholls ended his
Major League BB career on April 25, 1910 and returned to his farm in Maryland. Therefore, it is fair to
conclude that ALC did not print his card with any 460 series backs.

Also, I don't think by stating that these cards do not exist with an AB 460 back, that collectors will be
less likely to look for them. There are always a number of guys out there that are motivated in finding
exceptions to the rules.....and, that is fine, it's the American way


TED Z

[White Borders]

Hey Ted,

Thank you for all the great info, it is much appreciated.

Now let's see if I understand Nichols Batting. If it was intended to be in the 350/460 Group, rather than the 350 Only Group, but got discontinued before the 460 Backs of the 350/460 Group were issued, then ...

Nichols Batting Should potentially be found with the following backs:

AB350 (No Frame)
DRM350
EPDG
OM
P350
PB
SOV350 (Apple Green)
SC350 Fact 25
SC350 Fact 30
TOL


And Should Not be found with the following backs:

350 Only Group Backs

AB350 (Frame)
BL350
Car Brights
CYC350

460 Backs of the 350/460 Group

AB460
BL460
CYC460
Hindu (Red)
Lenox
P350-460 Fact 25
P350-460 Fact 42
SC350-460 Fact 25
SC350-460 Fact 30
SC350-460 Fact 42
SC350-460 Fact 42 OP
Uzit

So, Nichols Batting is like the reverse of Kleinow Boston and Smith Chicago & Boston, which are really 350/460 Subjects without the 350 backs.

Is there any hope for me?

Best Regards,
Craig

(Note, I just checked my two Nichols Batting cards and I can confirm the SOV350 Apple Green back, as well as the Polar Bear)

[tedzan]

There is there hope for you ole buddy......you understand it correctly


TED Z

[tedzan]

NOTE.....important info for you front/back collectors of T206 team's, player's, or type cards.

The AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 cards and the UZIT cards are essentially matched pairs....that is, they have in common
identical fronts. Furthermore, these 2 backs are mutually exclusive with the BROAD LEAF 460 and Red HINDU cards.

This rule applies only to the 350/460 series cards.


TED Z

[tedzan]

We have accounted for 190 cards with the American Beauty 350 (with frame) back (ABF).
That leaves us with 23 possible No-Prints. Can anyone here confirm any of these following
cards with the ABF back ?

Barger
G. Brown (Washington)
Byrne
Collins (Minneapolis)
Cross
Dahlen (portrait--Brooklyn)
Demmitt (New York)
Joe Doyle
Elberfeld (portrait--Washington)
Evans
Gray
Groom
Kleinow (catching--New York)
Lundgren (Kansas City)
Mattern
McLean
Mowery
O'Hara (New York)
Puttman
Rhoades (arm extended)
Rossman
Shannon
F. Smith (Chicago--white cap)


Thanks,

TED Z

[tedzan]

A Net54 reader has reported Wilhelm (bat) with an AB 350 (no frame) back.

This raises the tally to 37 confirmed.

If anyone has AB 350 or AB 460 cards that are not on the three lists here, please tell us about them.

Thanks,

TED Z

[tedzan]

AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 frame....190 confirmed cards

Abbott
Abstein
Adkins
Anderson
Arellanes
Armbruster
Arndt
Atz
Barbeau
Barry (A's)
Barry (Milw)
Batch
Beck
Becker
Beckley
Bender (trees)
Bescher (portrait)
Blackburne
Bliss
Brain

Brashear
Bresnahan (bat)
Burchell
Burke
Burns
Bush
Butler
Campbell
Carr
Carrigan
Casey
Cassidy
Chance (portrait-yellow)
Chappelle
Charles
Chase (portrait-blue)
Chase (dark cap)
Clancy
Clark
Clymer

Cobb (portrait-red)
Collins (A's)
Congalton
Cravath
Cree
Davidson
Delehanty (Louisville)
Dessau
Dineen
Donovan (throwing)
Doolan (fielding)
Dorner
Downey (fielding)
Downs
Dubuc
Dunn (Baltimore)
Dunn (Brooklyn)
Dygert
Easterly
Egan

Engle
Evers (bat-yellow sky)
Ferguson
Fiene (portrait)
Fiene (throwing)
Flanagan
Fletcher
Freeman
Fromme
Ganzel
Gasper
Graham (Boston)
Graham (St Louis)
Grimshaw
Hall
Hallman
Hannifan
Hartsel
Hayden
Hinchman (Toledo)

Hoblitzell
Hoffman (Providence)
Hoffman (St Louis)
Hofman
Howard (Chicago)
Howell (portrait)
Huggins (portrait)
Huggins (hands/mouth)
Hulswitt
Hunter
Jackson
Jones (Detroit)
Kelley
Killian (portrait)
Kisinger
Knabe
Knight (portrait)
Knight (bat)
Krause (portrait)
Krause (pitching)

Kroh
Kruger
Laporte
Lattimore
Lavender
Lennox
Livingstone
Lord
Maddox
Malarkey
Maloney
Marquard (portrait)
Marshall
Mathewson (dark cap)
McAleese
McBride
McCormick
Mc Elveen
McGann
McGinley

McGinnity
McGlynn
McIntyre (Detroit)
Merritt
Milan
Miller (Pittsburg)
Milligan
Mitchell (Cinci)
Mitchell (Toronto)
Moeller
Moran (Chicago)
Moran (Providence)
Moriarty
Mullin (portrait)
Murray (bat)
Myers (bat)
Myers (fielding)
Nattress
Oakes
Oberlin

O'Brien
O'Neill
Paskert
Perring
Pfeister (seated)
Phelan
Phelps
Phillippe
Pickering
Poland
Purtell
Quillen
Quinn
Randall
Raymond
Rhoades (hands/chest)
Rhodes
Ritter
Rudolph
Schirm

Schlafly
Schmidt (portrait)
Schreck
Scott
Sharpe
Shaw (Providence)
Slagle
Smith (Buffalo)
Snodgrass (bat)
Speaker
Stanage
Starr
Stephens
Strang
Street (portrait)
Summers
Sweeney (Boston)
J. Tannehill (Washington)
Taylor
Thielmann

Thomas
Titus
Unglaub
Warhop
White (Buffalo)
Willett
Wilson
Wright
Irv Young
Zimmerman






AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 (no frame).....37 confirmed cards

Baker
Bender (no trees)
Burch (fielding)
Conroy (bat)
Crawford (bat)
Doolan (bat)
Downey (bat)
Larry Doyle (bat)
Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)
Griffith (bat)
Jennings (two hands)
Johnson (pitching)
Jordan (bat)
Konetchy (glove low)
Lake (no ball)
Leifield (bat)
Magee (bat)
Manning (pitching)
McQuillan (bat)
Mullin (bat)

Murphy (bat)
Nichols (bat)
Overall (yellow sky)
Pelty (vertical)
Pfeister (throwing)
Reulbach (no glove)
Rucker (throwing)
Seymour (throwing)
Stahl (glove)
Steinfeldt (bat)
Street (catching)
Sweeney (fielding)
Wagner (bat on right)
Wilhelm (bat)
Willetts
Willis (bat)
Wiltse (pitching)






AMERICAN BEAUTY 460.......75 confirmed cards

350/460 Series..................29 cards

Ames (hands over head)
Berger
Bradley (bat)
Burch (fielding)
Cobb (bat off)
Conroy (bat)
Crawford (bat)
Jennings (one hand)
Jennings (two hands)
Jordan (bat)
Lajoie (bat)
Lake (no ball)
Leach (cap)
Leifield (bat)
Manning (pitching)
McQuillan (bat)
Mullin (bat)
Overall (yellow sky)
Pelty (vertical)
Pfeister (throwing)

F. Smith (Chicago & Boston)
Steinfeldt (bat)
Tinker (bat off)
Wagner (bat on right)
Doc White (pitching)
Wilhelm (bat)
Willetts
Willis (bat)
Wiltse (pitching)


460-only Series..................46 cards

Abbaticcio (blue sleeves)
Ball (Cleveland)
Bell (pitching)
Bergen (catching)
Bescher (arms above)
Bridwell (portrait-cap)
Camnitz (arms at side)
Camnitz (arms up)
Chance (bat)
Chase (trophy)
Crandall (portrait-cap)
Devore
Doyle (portrait)
Duffy
Ford
Frill
Gandil
Geyer
Herzog (Boston)
Howell (hands at waist)

Hummell
Lake (with ball)
Latham
Marquard (follow thru)
McGraw (portrait-cap)
McGraw (glove at hip)
Merkle (throwing)
Meyers (portrait)
Murray (portrait)
Needham
Oldring (bat)
Overall (blue sky)
Payne
Pfeffer
Schaefer (Washington)
Schulte (back view)
Schlei (portrait)
Schlei (bat)
Seymour (portrait)
Sheckard (glove)

H. Smith (Brooklyn)
Stovall (bat)
Tannehill (Chicago)
Tinker (bat on)
Wheat
Wiltse (portrait-cap)


This survey has been updated on 12/1/2010



TED Z

[Abravefan11]

Hi Ted,

I believe all of these American Beauty lists are complete with the exception of one missing from the 460 series group. John Frill



American Beauty Frame - 190

American Beauty No Frame - 37

American Beauty 460 - 75

[tedzan]

Thank you Tim

I've been looking for Frill for many, many years. I was pretty sure that he was a No-Print....since he was reassigned to
Jersey City (Eastern League) on July 13, 1910.


TED Z

[tedzan]

AMERICAN BEAUTY 460..........................74 confirmed cards

350/460 Series..................28 cards

Ames (hands over head) ........................ ?

Berger
Bradley (bat)
Burch (fielding)
Cobb (bat off)
Conroy (bat)
Crawford (bat)
Jennings (one hand)
Jennings (two hands)
Jordan (bat)
Lajoie (bat)
Lake (no ball)
Leach (cap)
Leifield (bat)
Manning (pitching)
McQuillan (bat)
Mullin (bat)
Overall (yellow sky)
Pelty (vertical)
Pfeister (throwing)
F. Smith (Chicago & Boston)

Steinfeldt (bat)
Tinker (bat off)
Wagner (bat on right)
Doc White (pitching)
Wilhelm (bat)
Willetts
Willis (bat)
Wiltse (pitching)


460-only Series..................46 cards

Abbaticcio (blue sleeves)
Ball (Cleveland)
Bell (pitching)
Bergen (catching)
Bescher (arms above)
Bridwell (portrait-cap)
Camnitz (arms at side)
Camnitz (arms up)
Chance (bat)
Chase (trophy)
Crandall (portrait-cap)
Devore
Doyle (portrait)
Duffy
Ford
Frill
Gandil
Geyer
Herzog (Boston)
Howell (hands at waist)

Hummell
Lake (with ball)
Latham
Marquard (follow thru)
McGraw (portrait-cap)
McGraw (glove at hip)
Merkle (throwing)
Meyers (portrait)
Murray (portrait)
Needham
Oldring (bat)
Overall (blue sky)
Payne
Pfeffer
Schaefer (Washington)
Schulte (back view)
Schlei (portrait)
Schlei (bat)
Seymour (portrait)
Sheckard (glove)

H. Smith (Brooklyn)
Stovall (bat)
Tannehill (Chicago)
Tinker (bat on)
Wheat
Wiltse (portrait-cap)


TED Z
.

[tonyo]

Originally Posted by White Borders

And if we state that these will not be found with an AB460 back, then people will be less likely to look for them; thus reducing the chance of finding an exception to the principle if there is one. Kinda like in quantum physics where the act of observing affects the observation.

Has any other pre-war set garnered comparison to quantum physics? Love it!

[tedzan]

AMERICAN BEAUTY 460..........................74 confirmed cards

350/460 Series..................28 cards

Berger
Bradley (bat)
Burch (fielding)
Cobb (bat off)
Conroy (bat)
Crawford (bat)
Jennings (one hand)
Jennings (two hands)
Jordan (bat)
Lajoie (bat)
Lake (no ball)
Leach (cap)
Leifield (bat)
Manning (pitching)
McQuillan (bat)
Mullin (bat)
Overall (yellow sky)
Pelty (vertical)
Pfeister (throwing)
F. Smith (Chicago & Boston)

Steinfeldt (bat)
Tinker (bat off)
Wagner (bat on right)
Doc White (pitching)
Wilhelm (bat)
Willetts
Willis (bat)
Wiltse (pitching)


460-only Series..................46 cards

Abbaticcio (blue sleeves)
Ball (Cleveland)
Bell (pitching)
Bergen (catching)
Bescher (arms above)
Bridwell (portrait-cap)
Camnitz (arms at side)
Camnitz (arms up)
Chance (bat)
Chase (trophy)
Crandall (portrait-cap)
Devore
Doyle (portrait)
Duffy
Ford
Frill
Gandil
Geyer
Herzog (Boston)
Howell (hands at waist)

Hummell
Lake (with ball)
Latham
Marquard (follow thru)
McGraw (portrait-cap)
McGraw (glove at hip)
Merkle (throwing)
Meyers (portrait)
Murray (portrait)
Needham
Oldring (bat)
Overall (blue sky)
Payne
Pfeffer
Schaefer (Washington)
Schulte (back view)
Schlei (portrait)
Schlei (bat)
Seymour (portrait)
Sheckard (glove)

H. Smith (Brooklyn)
Stovall (bat)
Tannehill (Chicago)
Tinker (bat on)
Wheat
Wiltse (portrait-cap)

The Ames (hands above head) card has been removed from this list. Refer to thread......http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=203849
for the explanation.



TED Z
.

[tedzan]

The printing of the very scarce AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 cards appears to breakdown into 3 levels of scarcity.


1st......and easiest to find, the "Exclusive 12" are certainly more available than any of the other 62 subjects
with AB 460 backs. I believe these 12 subjects were printed on a sheet separate from the other AB 460's.




Crandall (cap)
Devore
Duffy
Ford
Gandil
Geyer
Hummel
McGraw (glove at hip)
Pfeffer
Sheckard (glove)
Tannehill (Chicago)
Wheat


2nd......and considerably tougher than the Exclusive 12 are the following 38 subjects......

Bell (pitching)
Berger
Bescher (arms above)
Bradley (bat)
Bridwell (portrait-cap)
Burch (fielding)
Camnitz (arms at side)
Chance (bat)
Chase (trophy)
Cobb (bat off)
Conroy (bat)
Crawford (bat)
Herzog (Boston)
Howell (hands at waist)
Jennings (two hands)
Jordan (bat)
Lake (with ball)
Lake (no ball)
Latham
Leach (cap)
Leifield (bat)
Manning (pitching)
Marquard (follow thru)
Merkle (throwing)
Mullin (bat)
Needham
Overall (blue sky)
Pfeister (throwing)
Schaefer (Washington)
Schulte (back view)
Schlei (portrait)
Schlei (bat)
Seymour (portrait)
F. Smith (Chicago & Boston)
Tinker (bat on)
Wagner (bat on right)
Doc White (pitching)
Willetts



3rd......and the most difficult of all of these 74 - AB 460 cards are these 24 subjects......

Abbaticcio (blue sleeves)
Ball (Cleveland)
Bergen (catching)
Camnitz (hands over head)
Doyle (portrait)
Frill
Jennings (one hand)
Lajoie (bat)
McGraw (portrait-cap)
McQuillan (bat)
Meyers (portrait)
Murray (portrait)
Oldring (bat)
Overall (yellow sky)
Payne
Pelty (vertical)
H. Smith (Brooklyn)
Steinfeldt (bat)
Stovall (bat)
Tinker (bat off)
Wilhelm (bat)
Willis (bat)
Wiltse (pitching)
Wiltse (portrait-cap)


I've listed these 3 levels of scarcity of the AB 460 cards based on my experience collecting this T206 sub-set
during the past 8 years. Furthermore, this list factors into account other collectors want-lists of AB 460 cards.


Show and/or tell us of your experiences collecting these tough AB 460 backs.



TED Z
__________________________________________________ ______________________________________
Still searching for these 4 cards to complete my AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set (74 subjects)

CAMNITZ (hands over head)....DOYLE (portrait)....McGRAW (portrait-cap)....TINKER (bat off shoulder)
.

[trdcrdkid]

Ted -- my two AB 460s include one from your second group (Mullin bat) and one from your third group (Overall yellow sky). As usual, great stuff.

[tedzan]

Nice looking cards......especially the Overall.

The Overall is a very tough AB 460 card.


TED Z
.

[tedzan]

The printing of the very scarce AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 cards appears to breakdown into 3 levels of scarcity.


1st.....and, easiest to find, the "Exclusive 12" are certainly more available than any of the other 62 subjects
with AB 460 backs. I believe these 12 subjects were printed on a sheet separate from the other AB 460's.




Crandall (cap)
Devore
Duffy
Ford
Gandil
Geyer
Hummel
McGraw (glove at hip)
Pfeffer
Sheckard (glove)
Tannehill (Chicago)
Wheat


2nd.....and, considerably tougher than the Exclusive 12 are the following 30 subjects......


Berger
Bradley (bat)
Burch (fielding)
Camnitz (arms at side)
Chance (bat)
Chase (trophy)
Cobb (bat off)
Conroy (bat)
Crawford (bat)
Jennings (two hands)
Lake (no ball)
Latham
Leifield (bat)
Manning (pitching)
Meyers (portrait)
Mullin (bat)
Needham
Overall (blue sky)
Pelty (vertical)
Pfeister (throwing)
Schlei (portrait)
Schlei (bat)
Schulte (back view)
Seymour (portrait)
Frank Smith (Chicago & Boston)
Happy Smith (Brooklyn)
Stovall (bat)
Willetts
Willis (bat)
Wiltse (pitching)



3rd.....and, the most difficult of all of these AB 460 cards are these 32 subjects......

Abbaticcio (blue sleeves)
Ball (Cleveland)
Bell (pitching)
Bergen (catching)
Bescher (arms above)
Bridwell (portrait-cap)
Camnitz (hands over head)
Doyle (portrait)
Frill
Herzog (Boston)
Howell (hands at waist)
Jennings (one hand)
Jordan (bat)
Lajoie (bat)
Lake (with ball)
Leach (cap)
Marquard (follow thru)
McGraw (portrait-cap)
McQuillan (bat)
Merkle (throwing)
Murray (portrait)
Oldring (bat)
Overall (yellow sky)
Payne
Schaefer (Washington)
Steinfeldt (bat)
Tinker (bat off)
Tinker (bat on)
Wagner (bat on right)
Doc White (pitching)
Wilhelm (bat)
Wiltse (portrait-cap)


I have listed these 3 levels of scarcity of the AB 460 cards based on my experience collecting this T206 sub-set
during the past 8 years. Furthermore, this list factors into account other collectors want-lists of AB 460 cards.


Determining these 3 levels of scarcity is still a work in progress. So, tell us of your experiences collecting these
tough AB 460 backs....and, show your cards..



TED Z
__________________________________________________ ______________________________________
Still searching for these 4 cards to complete my AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set (74 subjects)

CAMNITZ (hands over head)....DOYLE (portrait)....McGRAW (portrait-cap)....TINKER (bat off shoulder)
.

[mrvster]

I totally agree on these "levels".........


I have most of the "12"....but only 2 or 3 or the tougher ones

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by mrvster

I totally agree on these "levels".........


I have most of the "12"....but only 2 or 3 or the tougher ones

Your experience collecting these AB 460 cards is typical.

The majority of the AB 460 cards are considerably tougher than what they are ranked in the "T206resource" site.
However, the considerably more available Exclusive 12 subjects with AB 460 backs significantly skew the AB 460
ranking lower than it actually should be.

Research indicates that 60 of these subjects with the AB 460 back should rank as high as the red HINDU cards.


TED Z
.

[Jobu]

Hi Ted,

I have a question for you. In post 20 in this thread:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?p=1448952

you gave a list of subjects with fewer than 4 known examples in AB 460. Of that short list, Conroy, Manning, Pelty, and Willis are not listed in the most difficult group, group 3, in this thread. Was this an oversight or is there something about these four that should make them easier than the others with fewer than 4 known examples?

Thanks

[tedzan]

Since I posted that prior list....

Conroy
Manning
McQuilllan
Overall
Pelty
Steinfeldt
Wagner
Wilhelm
Willis
Wiltse

....further research indicates that Conroy, Manning, Pelty, and Wills are borderline candidates with 4 examples each.

For example Manning: Your card, my card, and I have recently seen two beat up cards of Manning/AB 460.



TED Z
.

[Jobu]

Thanks for the clarification Ted. I guess I will just have to buy and destroy the two beaters.

[tedzan]

AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 frame.......190 confirmed subjects

Abbott
Abstein
Adkins
Anderson
Arellanes
Armbruster
Arndt
Atz
Barbeau
Barry (A's)
Barry (Milwaukee)
Batch
Beck
Becker
Beckley
Bender (trees)
Bescher (portrait)
Blackburne
Bliss
Brain

Brashear
Bresnahan (bat)
Burchell
Burke
Burns
Bush
Butler
Campbell
Carr
Carrigan
Casey
Cassidy
Chance (portrait-yellow)
Chappelle
Charles
Chase (portrait-blue)
Chase (dark cap)
Clancy
Clark
Clymer

Cobb (portrait-red)
Collins (A's)
Congalton
Cravath
Cree
Davidson
Delehanty (Louisville)
Dessau
Dineen
Donovan (throwing)
Doolan (fielding)
Dorner
Downey (fielding)
Downs
Dubuc
Dunn (Baltimore)
Dunn (Brooklyn)
Dygert
Easterly
Egan

Engle
Evers (bat-yellow sky)
Ferguson
Fiene (portrait)
Fiene (throwing)
Flanagan
Fletcher
Freeman
Fromme
Ganzel
Gasper
Graham (Boston)
Graham (St Louis)
Grimshaw
Hall
Hallman
Hannifan
Hartsel
Hayden
Hinchman (Toledo)

Hoblitzell
Hoffman (Providence)
Hoffman (St Louis)
Hofman
Howard (Chicago)
Howell (portrait)
Huggins (portrait)
Huggins (hands at mouth)
Hulswitt
Hunter
Jackson
Jones (Detroit)
Kelley
Killian (portrait)
Kisinger
Knabe
Knight (portrait)
Knight (bat)
Krause (portrait)
Krause (pitching)

Kroh
Kruger
Laporte
Lattimore
Lavender
Lennox
Livingstone
Lord
Maddox
Malarkey
Maloney
Marquard (portrait)
Marshall
Mathewson (dark cap)
McAleese
McBride
McCormick
Mc Elveen
McGann
McGinley

McGinnity
McGlynn
McIntyre (Detroit)
Merritt
Milan
Miller (Pittsburg)
Milligan
Mitchell (Cinci)
Mitchell (Toronto)
Moeller
Moran (Chicago)
Moran (Providence)
Moriarty
Mullin (portrait)
Murray (bat)
Myers (bat)
Myers (fielding)
Nattress
Oakes
Oberlin

O'Brien
O'Neill
Paskert
Perring
Pfeister (seated)
Phelan
Phelps
Phillippe
Pickering
Poland
Purtell
Quillen
Quinn
Randall
Raymond
Rhoades (hands at chest)
Rhodes
Ritter
Rudolph
Schirm

Schlafly
Schmidt (portrait)
Schreck
Scott
Sharpe
Shaw (Providence)
Slagle
Smith (Buffalo)
Snodgrass (bat)
Speaker
Stanage
Starr
Stephens
Strang
Street (portrait)
Summers
Sweeney (Boston)
J. Tannehill (Washington)
Taylor
Thielmann

Thomas
Titus
Unglaub
Warhop
White (Buffalo)
Willett
Wilson
Wright
Irv Young
Zimmerman





AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 no frame......37 confirmed subjects

Baker
Bender (no trees)
Burch (fielding)
Conroy (bat)
Crawford (bat)
Doolan (bat)
Downey (bat)
Larry Doyle (bat)
Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)
Griffith (bat)
Jennings (two hands)
Johnson (pitching)
Jordan (bat)
Konetchy (glove low)
Lake (no ball)
Leifield (bat)
Magee (bat)
Manning (pitching)
McQuillan (bat)
Mullin (bat)

Murphy (bat)
Nichols (bat) .......................... initial press runs
Overall (yellow sky)
Pelty (vertical)
Pfeister (throwing)
Reulbach (no glove)
Rucker (throwing)
Seymour (throwing)
Stahl (glove) .......................... replaced Nichols in subsequent press runs
Steinfeldt (bat)
Street (catching)
Sweeney (fielding)
Wagner (bat on right)
Wilhelm (bat)
Willetts
Willis (bat)
Wiltse (pitching)



AMERICAN BEAUTY 460........74 confirmed subjects

350/460 Series.....................28 subjects

Berger
Bradley (bat)
Burch (fielding)
Cobb (bat off shoulder)
Conroy (bat)
Crawford (bat)
Jennings (one hand)
Jennings (two hands)
Jordan (bat)
Lajoie (bat)
Lake (no ball)
Leach (cap)
Leifield (bat)
Manning (pitching)
McQuillan (bat) ........................ **
Mullin (bat)
Overall (yellow sky)
Pelty (vertical)
Pfeister (throwing)
F. Smith (Chicago & Boston)

Steinfeldt (bat)
Tinker (bat off shoulder)
Wagner (bat on right) ............... **
Doc White (pitching)
Wilhelm (bat) .......................... **
Willetts
Willis (bat)
Wiltse (pitching)



460-only Series.....................46 subjects

Abbaticcio (blue sleeves)
Ball (Cleveland)
Bell (pitching)
Bergen (catching)
Bescher (hands in air)
Bridwell (portrait-cap)
Camnitz (arms at side)
Camnitz (hands above head) ..... **
Chance (bat)
Chase (trophy)
Crandall (portrait-cap)
Devore
Doyle (portrait) ........................ **
Duffy
Ford
Frill
Gandil
Geyer
Herzog (Boston)
Howell (hand on waist)

Hummell
Lake (with ball) ....................... **
Latham
Marquard (follow thru)
McGraw (portrait-cap) .............. **
McGraw (glove at hip)
Merkle (throwing)
Meyers (portrait)
Murray (portrait) ...................... **
Needham
Oldring (bat)
Overall (blue sky)
Payne ..................................... **
Pfeffer
Schaefer (Washington) .............. **
Schulte (back view)
Schlei (portrait) ........................ **
Schlei (bat)
Seymour (portrait)
Sheckard (glove)

H. Smith (Brooklyn)
Stovall (bat)
Tannehill (Chicago)
Tinker (bat on shoulder)
Wheat
Wiltse (portrait-cap) .................. **


** NOTE
To date, there is only ONE example of each of these 12 cards listed in the POP report data (SGC + PSA).

If you have any of these 12 very scarce AB 460 cards could you please show and/or tell us.

Thanks.

TED Z

__________________________________________________ ____________________________________
Still searching for these 4 cards to complete my AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set (74 subjects)

CAMNITZ (hands over head)....DOYLE (portrait)....McGRAW (portrait-cap)....TINKER (bat off shoulder)
.

[swanstars]

Just got these graded recently, noticed on the pop report there shows only 2 Chance and 3 Meyers. Not sure how tough any of these are with the previously graded ones out there...? And have a Donovan Throwing AB 350/Frame PSA 5.5

Darrin

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by swanstars

Just got these graded recently, noticed on the pop report there shows only 2 Chance and 3 Meyers. Not sure how tough any of these are with the previously graded ones out there...? And have a Donovan Throwing AB 350/Frame PSA 5.5

Darrin

You have some fine looking AB 460 cards. Thanks for displaying them.

Yes....the POP report data shows only 2 - Chance cards and 3 - Meyers cards with AB 460 backs.

In addition to those, I have an SGC graded AB 460 Chance; and, I had an ungraded AB 460 Chance. Also, I have an ungraded AB 460 Meyers.

Nevertheless, these Chance and Meyers cards are tough; but , not as tough as some the other AB 460 subjects.


TED Z
.

[Pat R]

I have mentioned this once before but it didn't receive any opinions either
way so I thought I would try it here.

All of the confirmed Brown Lenox subjects are also AB 460 subjects so I was
thinking it might be possible that some(or all) of the sheets used for the
AB 460's were also used for the Brown Lenox.

While the Brown Lenox is an extremely rare back (22 different subjects confirmed so far) it seems odd that none of the possible 34 non AB 460
subjects has been confirmed with a Brown Lenox. So could it be that not all Black Lenox subjects are possible with Brown Lenox and only AB 460 subjects are?

[tedzan]

Very interesting observation, Pat.

We do know that some of the sheets used to print the AB 460 backs were also used to print the UZIT backs.

But it remains to be seen if this is also true for the AB 460 cards and the brown LENOX cards, since (to date)
there are only 22 examples of the brown LENOX cards.

Furthermore, it is quite puzzling that 4 subjects (Lajoie, Overall, Pfeister, Wagner) of these 22 brown LENOX
cards have yet to be confirmed with black LENOX backs ? ? ? ?


Incidentally, there are 35 subjects that are AB 460 No-Prints (not 34).



TED Z
.

[Pat R]

I agree with you Ted, it's not much to gauge off with only 22 confirmed subjects but with 32% of the subjects being AB 460 no prints you would think at least a couple of the Confirmed Brown Lenox would be from this group if they are a possible front back combo.

[tedzan]

In any event, I think this connection is worth tracking....who knows where it will lead us.

Only The Monster knows !


TED Z
.

[tedzan]

One more try here to get some inputs from you regarding the 12 very, very tough American Beauty 460 cards.



AMERICAN BEAUTY 460........74 confirmed subjects

350/460 Series.....................28 subjects

Berger
Bradley (bat)
Burch (fielding)
Cobb (bat off shoulder)
Conroy (bat)
Crawford (bat)
Jennings (one hand)
Jennings (two hands)
Jordan (bat)
Lajoie (bat)
Lake (no ball)
Leach (cap)
Leifield (bat)
Manning (pitching)
McQuillan (bat) ........................ **
Mullin (bat)
Overall (yellow sky)
Pelty (vertical)
Pfeister (throwing)
F. Smith (Chicago & Boston)

Steinfeldt (bat)
Tinker (bat off shoulder)
Wagner (bat on right) ............... **
Doc White (pitching)
Wilhelm (bat) .......................... **
Willetts
Willis (bat)
Wiltse (pitching)


460-only Series.....................46 subjects

Abbaticcio (blue sleeves)
Ball (Cleveland)
Bell (pitching)
Bergen (catching)
Bescher (hands in air)
Bridwell (portrait-cap)
Camnitz (arms at side)
Camnitz (hands above head) ..... **
Chance (bat)
Chase (trophy)
Crandall (portrait-cap)
Devore
Doyle (portrait) ........................ **
Duffy
Ford
Frill
Gandil
Geyer
Herzog (Boston)
Howell (hand on waist)

Hummell
Lake (with ball) ....................... **
Latham
Marquard (follow thru)
McGraw (portrait-cap) .............. **
McGraw (glove at hip)
Merkle (throwing)
Meyers (portrait)
Murray (portrait) ...................... **
Needham
Oldring (bat)
Overall (blue sky)
Payne ..................................... **
Pfeffer
Schaefer (Washington) .............. **
Schulte (back view)
Schlei (portrait) ........................ **
Schlei (bat)
Seymour (portrait)
Sheckard (glove)

H. Smith (Brooklyn)
Stovall (bat)
Tannehill (Chicago)
Tinker (bat on shoulder)
Wheat
Wiltse (portrait-cap) .................. **


** NOTE
To date, there is only ONE example of each of these 12 cards as is evident in the POP report data (SGC + PSA).
If you have any of these 12 very scarce AB 460 cards could you please show and/or tell us of them..... Thanks.



TED Z
__________________________________________________ ____________________________________
Still searching for these 4 cards to complete my AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set (74 subjects)

CAMNITZ (hands over head)....DOYLE (portrait)....McGRAW (portrait-cap)....TINKER (bat off shoulder)
.

[mrvster]

guys

[swanstars]

Just got this back from SGC !

[tedzan]

Nice clean looking Zach Wheat. Reminds me of how I got started on my adventure to complete the American Beauty 460 sub-set. Back in 2006,
I broke up my 2nd T206 set in order to start a 3rd set with all PIEDMONT cards. The Zach Wheat card in my 2nd set was an AB 460. I thought it
was a pretty cool card. So, I decided to also take on the challenge of doing an AB 460 run.


....





TED Z
__________________________________________________ ____________________________________
Still searching for these 4 cards to complete my AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set (74 subjects)

CAMNITZ (hands over head)....DOYLE (portrait)....McGRAW (portrait-cap)....TINKER (bat off shoulder)
.

[swanstars]

Hi Ted
I tried to send an email to you on here, not sure if you got it...?
had a couple questions on these...
Darrin

[tedzan]

Darrin

I didn't receive it. Email me at......

tedzan11@comcast.net


TED Z
.

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by Pat R

I have mentioned this once before but it didn't receive any opinions either
way so I thought I would try it here.

All of the confirmed Brown Lenox subjects are also AB 460 subjects so I was
thinking it might be possible that some(or all) of the sheets used for the
AB 460's were also used for the Brown Lenox.

While the Brown Lenox is an extremely rare back (22 different subjects confirmed so far) it seems odd that none of the possible 34 non AB 460
subjects has been confirmed with a Brown Lenox. So could it be that not all Black Lenox subjects are possible with Brown Lenox and only AB 460 subjects are?

There was a Conroy Lenox in a lot that sold in the recent Lelands auction.
I think this is the first confirmed Conroy Lenox and it looks like it's a Brown
Lenox which would be the 23rd confirmed Brown Lenox and all 23 would
also be American Beauty 460 subjects.

[tedzan]

Pat R

Nice observation....Conroy's LENOX back is certainly brown.


OK, for starters, the Exclusive 12 subjects in the 460-only series are Double-Printed (or Triple-Printed) with AB 460 backs. However, NONE of these 12 will ever
be found with brown LENOX. But, of course we know that these 12 guys are black LENOX No-Prints.


My theory regarding these LENOX "brownies" is simple, they are the result of a wrong ink press run of normally black LENOX cards. Eventually, Conroy (Pfeister
and Wagner) will be found wiith black LENOX backs.

If you're looking to draw some (or any) connection with other T206 back press runs, consider PIEDMONT 460/42 regarding the 460-only series "brownies".........

460-only Series......12 subjects confirmed with P460/42......6 of these subjects are also confirmed with brown LENOX (to date)

Bergen (catching)
Chase (Trophy)................brown LENOX
Latham...........................brown LENOX
Marquard (pitching)..........brown LENOX
Merkle (throwing).............brown LENOX
Murray (portrait)
Overall (blue sky)
Schlei (portrait)................brown LENOX
Schlei (batting)
Schaefer (Washington)
Seymour (portrait)
Wiltse (portrait-cap)..........brown LENOX


Incidentally, I have to slightly modify your statement..... "While the Brown Lenox is an extremely rare back (22 different subjects confirmed so far) it seems odd
that none of the possible 34 non AB 460 subjects has been confirmed with a Brown Lenox.".
Actually, there are 35 AB 460 No-Prints. Ames (hands above head) has never been confirmed with an AB 460 back. Specific T206 printing patterns strongly sug-
gest that this Ames card will never be found with the AB 460 back. But, will possibly be found with a red HINDU back.


TED Z
.

[tedzan]

AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 frame.......190 confirmed subjects

Abbott
Abstein
Adkins
Anderson
Arellanes
Armbruster
Arndt
Atz
Barbeau
Barry (A's)
Barry (Milwaukee)
Batch
Beck
Becker
Beckley
Bender (trees)
Bescher (portrait)
Blackburne
Bliss
Brain

Brashear
Bresnahan (bat)
Burchell
Burke
Burns
Bush
Butler
Campbell
Carr
Carrigan
Casey
Cassidy
Chance (portrait-yellow)
Chappelle
Charles
Chase (portrait-blue)
Chase (dark cap)
Clancy
Clark
Clymer

Cobb (portrait-red)
Collins (A's)
Congalton
Cravath
Cree
Davidson
Delehanty (Louisville)
Dessau
Dineen
Donovan (throwing)
Doolan (fielding)
Dorner
Downey (fielding)
Downs
Dubuc
Dunn (Baltimore)
Dunn (Brooklyn)
Dygert
Easterly
Egan

Engle
Evers (bat-yellow sky)
Ferguson
Fiene (portrait)
Fiene (throwing)
Flanagan
Fletcher
Freeman
Fromme
Ganzel
Gasper
Graham (Boston)
Graham (St Louis)
Grimshaw
Hall
Hallman
Hannifan
Hartsel
Hayden
Hinchman (Toledo)

Hoblitzell
Hoffman (Providence)
Hoffman (St Louis)
Hofman
Howard (Chicago)
Howell (portrait)
Huggins (portrait)
Huggins (hands at mouth)
Hulswitt
Hunter
Jackson
Jones (Detroit)
Kelley
Killian (portrait)
Kisinger
Knabe
Knight (portrait)
Knight (bat)
Krause (portrait)
Krause (pitching)

Kroh
Kruger
Laporte
Lattimore
Lavender
Lennox
Livingstone
Lord
Maddox
Malarkey
Maloney
Marquard (portrait)
Marshall
Mathewson (dark cap)
McAleese
McBride
McCormick
Mc Elveen
McGann
McGinley

McGinnity
McGlynn
McIntyre (Detroit)
Merritt
Milan
Miller (Pittsburg)
Milligan
Mitchell (Cinci)
Mitchell (Toronto)
Moeller
Moran (Chicago)
Moran (Providence)
Moriarty
Mullin (portrait)
Murray (bat)
Myers (bat)
Myers (fielding)
Nattress
Oakes
Oberlin

O'Brien
O'Neill
Paskert
Perring
Pfeister (seated)
Phelan
Phelps
Phillippe
Pickering
Poland
Purtell
Quillen
Quinn
Randall
Raymond
Rhoades (hands at chest)
Rhodes
Ritter
Rudolph
Schirm

Schlafly
Schmidt (portrait)
Schreck
Scott
Sharpe
Shaw (Providence)
Slagle
Smith (Buffalo)
Snodgrass (bat)
Speaker
Stanage
Starr
Stephens
Strang
Street (portrait)
Summers
Sweeney (Boston)
J. Tannehill (Washington)
Taylor
Thielmann

Thomas
Titus
Unglaub
Warhop
White (Buffalo)
Willett
Wilson
Wright
Irv Young
Zimmerman






AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 no frame......37 confirmed subjects

Baker
Bender (no trees)
Burch (fielding)
Conroy (bat)
Crawford (bat)
Doolan (bat)
Downey (bat)
Larry Doyle (bat)
Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)
Griffith (bat)
Jennings (two hands)
Johnson (pitching)
Jordan (bat)
Konetchy (glove low)
Lake (no ball)
Leifield (bat)
Magee (bat)
Manning (pitching)
McQuillan (bat)
Mullin (bat)

Murphy (bat)
Nichols (bat) .......................... initial press runs
Overall (yellow sky)
Pelty (vertical)
Pfeister (throwing)
Reulbach (no glove)
Rucker (throwing)
Seymour (throwing)
Stahl (glove) .......................... replaced Nichols in subsequent press runs
Steinfeldt (bat)
Street (catching)
Sweeney (fielding)
Wagner (bat on right)
Wilhelm (bat)
Willetts
Willis (bat)
Wiltse (pitching)





AMERICAN BEAUTY 460........74 confirmed subjects

350/460 Series.....................28 subjects

Berger
Bradley (bat)
Burch (fielding)
Cobb (bat off shoulder)
Conroy (bat)
Crawford (bat)
Jennings (one hand)
Jennings (two hands)
Jordan (bat)
Lajoie (bat)
Lake (no ball)
Leach (cap)
Leifield (bat)
Manning (pitching)
McQuillan (bat) ........................ **
Mullin (bat)
Overall (yellow sky)
Pelty (vertical)
Pfeister (throwing)
F. Smith (Chicago & Boston)

Steinfeldt (bat)
Tinker (bat off shoulder)
Wagner (bat on right) ............... **
Doc White (pitching)
Wilhelm (bat) .......................... **
Willetts
Willis (bat)
Wiltse (pitching)


460-only Series.....................46 subjects

Abbaticcio (blue sleeves)
Ball (Cleveland)
Bell (pitching)
Bergen (catching)
Bescher (hands in air)
Bridwell (portrait-cap)
Camnitz (arms at side)
Camnitz (hands above head) ..... **
Chance (bat)
Chase (trophy)
Crandall (portrait-cap)
Devore
Doyle (portrait) ........................ **
Duffy
Ford
Frill
Gandil
Geyer
Herzog (Boston)
Howell (hand on waist)

Hummell
Lake (with ball) ....................... **
Latham
Marquard (follow thru)
McGraw (portrait-cap) .............. **
McGraw (glove at hip)
Merkle (throwing)
Meyers (portrait)
Murray (portrait) ...................... **
Needham
Oldring (bat)
Overall (blue sky)
Payne ..................................... **
Pfeffer
Schaefer (Washington) .............. **
Schulte (back view)
Schlei (portrait) ........................ **
Schlei (bat)
Seymour (portrait)
Sheckard (glove)

H. Smith (Brooklyn)
Stovall (bat)
Tannehill (Chicago)
Tinker (bat on shoulder)
Wheat
Wiltse (portrait-cap) .................. **


** NOTE
To date, there is only 1 (or 2) examples of each of these 12 cards listed in the POP report data (SGC + PSA).

If you have any of these 12 very scarce AB 460 cards could you please show and/or tell us.

Thanks.

TED Z

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I'm still searching for these 4 cards to complete my AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set (74 subjects)

CAMNITZ (hands over head)....DOYLE (portrait)....McGRAW (portrait-cap)....TINKER (bat off shoulder)
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