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Old 08-10-2010, 02:38 PM
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Default FYI....T206 POLAR BEAR confirmed list

Dated Oct 7, 2020

The St Louis variations of Demmitt & O'Hara were only printed with the POLAR BEAR back.





To date, my checklist indicates 250 subjects have been confirmed with the POLAR BEAR backs.
The following lists these cards according to their respective T206 series.

350-only Series..................138 subjects

Abbott
Adkins
Anderson
Arellanes
Armbruster
Atz
Barbeau
Barger
Barry (A's)
Barry (Milwaukee)
Batch
Beck
Beckley
Bescher (portrait)
Blackburne
Bliss
Brain
Brashear
Bresnahan (bat)
Burchell

Burke
Bush
Carr
Carrigan
Casey
Chappelle
Clancy
Clark
Clymer
Collins (Milwaukee)
Congalton
Cravath
Davidson
Delehanty (Louisville)
Dessau
Dorner
Downey (fielding)
Joe Doyle (hands over head)
Dygert
Easterly

Egan
Engle
Evans
Ferguson
Fiene (portrait)
Flanagan
Freeman
Fromme
Ganzel
Gasper
Graham (Boston)
Graham (St Louis)
Gray
Grimshaw
Groom
Hallman
Hayden
Hinchman (Toledo)
Hoblitzell
Hoffman (Providence)

Hofman
Howard (Chicago)
Hulswitt
Jackson
Jones (Detroit)
Kelley
Kisinger
Kleinow (New York-catching)
Knight (portrait)
Knight (bat)
Krause (portrait)
Krause (pitching)
Kroh
Kruger
LaPorte
Lattimore
Lavender
Livingstone
Lord
Maddox

Maloney
Mattern
McGann
McGinnity
McGlynn
McLean
Merritt
Milan
Milligan
Miller (Pittsburg)
Moeller
Moran (Chicago)
Moriarty
Mullen (portrait)
Murray (bat)
Nattress
Oakes
O'Brien
O'Neill
Perring

Pfeister (seated)
Phelps
Phillippe
Pickering
Purtell
Puttman
Quillen
Quinn
Randall
Raymond
Rhoades (arm extended)
Rhodes
Ritter
Rudolph
Schirm
Schlafly
Schreck
Scott
Shannon
Sharpe

Shaw (Providence)
Slagle
Smith (Chicago, white cap)
Smith (Buffalo)
Snodgrass (bat)
Speaker
Stanage
Strang
Jessie Tannehill (Washington)
Taylor
Thielman
Titus
Unglaub
Warhop
White (Buffalo)
Willett
Wright
Irv Young


350/460 series...................58 subjects [plus Demmitt and O'Hara (St Louis) variations]

Ames (hands over head)
Baker
Bender (no trees)
Berger
Bradley (bat)
M. Brown (Chicago)
Burch (fielding)
Cobb (bat off shoulder)
Conroy (bat)
Crawford (bat)
Harry Davis (A's)
Demmitt (St Louis American)..........included in this print run
Donlin (bat)
Doolan (bat)
Dougherty (arm in air)
Downey (bat)
Larry Doyle (bat)
Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)
Griffith (bat)
Jennings (one hand)

Jennings (two hands)
Johnson (pitching)
Jordan (bat)
Joss (pitching)
Kleinow (Boston)
Konetchy (glove low)
Lajoie (bat)
Lake, St. Louis (no ball)
Leach (cap)
Leifeld (bat)
Magee (bat)
Manning (pitching)
McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago)
McQuillan (bat)
Mullin (bat)
Murphy (bat)
Nichols (bat)
O'Hara (St Louis Nat'L)....................included in this print run
O'Leary (hands on knees)
Overall (yellow sky)

Pelty (vertical)
Pfeister (throwing)
Reulbach (no glove)
Rucker (throwing)
Seymour (throwing)
F. Smith (Chicago & Boston)
Snodgrass (catching)
Stahl (glove)
Steinfeldt (bat)
Street (catching)
Sweeney (fielding)
Tinker (bat off shoulder)
Wagner (bat on right)
Doc White (Chicago-pitching)
Wilhelm (bat)
Willetts
Willis (throwing)
Willis (bat)
Wiltse (pitching)
CYoung (glove)


460-only Series..................46 subjects

Abbaticchio (blue sleeves)
Ball (Cleveland)
Bell (follow thru)
Bergen (catching)
Bescher (hands over head)
Bridwell (portrait-cap)
Camnitz (hands over head)
Camnitz (arm at side)
Chance (bat)
Chase (trophy)
Crandall (portrait-cap)
Devore
Duffy
Larry Doyle (portrait)
Ford
Frill
Gandil
Geyer
Herzog (Boston)
Howell (hand at waist}

Hummel
Lake, St. Louis (ball)
Latham
Marquard (pitching)
McGraw (portrait-cap)
McGraw (glove at hip)
Merkle (throwing)
Meyers (portrait)
Murray (portrait)
Needham
Oldring (batting)
Overall (blue sky)
Payne
Pfeffer
Schaefer (Washington)
Schlei (portrait)
Schlei (bat)
Schulte (back view)
Seymour (portrait)
Sheckard (glove)

H. Smith (Brooklyn)
Stovall (bat)
Tannehill (Chicago)
Tinker (bat on shoulder)
Wheat
Wiltse (portrait-cap)


Six Super-Prints

Chance (yellow portrait)
Chase (blue portrait)
Chase (dark cap)
Cobb (red portrait)
Evers (Chicago-yellow sky)
Mathewson (dark cap)


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What happened to Demmitt and O'Hara?
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Beat me to it by a minute, Barry.....
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Hi Ted - A couple more for the list.


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Ha !

I was testing you guys to see if any one really reads these lists and would notice the absence of Demmitt and O'Hara

It took you less than 5 minutes....I'm proud of you, ole buddy.


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You know I hardly ever read them. I guess I picked the right one to get started.
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Ted,

I have 2 Merle 'Doc' Adkins cards graded by SGC.

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Ted,

Have the Waddell Polar Bear cards been confirmed? There are no examples on the SGC pop reports as well as VCP.

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I have Cy Barger (see National pickups thread).

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Ted,

I have four to add to this list....I have Arellanes, Barbeau and McLean (shown below). I also have Beckley, but don't have it scanned.

Thanks.

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You can add Speaker to the list, Ted. I don't have a scan anymore, as I sold it a few months ago.
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Ted,

is this subset comparible with old mill? i always thought polar bears were more towards 350 350/460 subjects? thanks for the input!

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Ted

I have:

Roger Bresnahan (With Bat)
Clyde Engle
Steve Evans
Del Howard (Chicago)
Eddie Phelps
Ollie Pickering
Jake Thielman

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Thanks everyone for your new inputs. The list will be updated tomorrow.....as, we approach 312 cards.....the theoretical number of
possible POLAR BEAR cards.

The definite No-Prints are........

Geo. Brown (Washington)
Dahlen (Brooklyn)
Demmitt (NY American)
Elberfeld (portrait-Washington)
O'Hara (NY Nat'l)


DANNY G (refz)


There are similarities between the OLD MILL's and the POLAR BEAR's. However, the Timeline of when these 2 brands were printed differs
by about 5 months.

The 350 series OLD MILL's were printed very early in 1910. The 350 series POLAR BEAR's were printed circa May/June 1910.

Subsequently, there were several press runs of both brands that included all the cards in the 350/460 series and the 460-only series.

Also, I might add that TOLSTOI shares many of the same fronts as OLD MILL and POLAR BEAR cards.


Great question.


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Ted,

How many known examples are there for the Ty Cobb Green w/ Polar Bear back? Do you have a scan?

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Ted,

I have a Billy Maloney.

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Old 08-10-2010, 07:26 PM
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Hey....thanks guy for catching that one (Cobb-green). That entry is a mistake by me. It is an impossible front/back combo.

I have numerous other non-existent entries on this list that I am in the process of correcting at this moment. I transcribed
part of my OLD MILL list when I posted this POLAR BEAR list....my bad.

Anyhow, it will be corrected by this evening.


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As my collection of raw "collector-grade" T206s has grown to over 300 examples (wow), I am proud to say I can finally return to contributing to these threads. My contribution here is the following 3 unlisted polar bear-backed T206 cards, all Minor Leaguers:

Clancy
Hayden
Schirm


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Not sure if my question got lost ion the mix, but was there confirmation of a Polar Bear Waddell Throwing or Portrait? I never seen one and since I am trying to obtain every Waddell example I can, I would be very interested to know if it exists.

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Rob,
Neither of the Waddell cards exist with a Polar Bear back(both are 150/350 group).
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OK guys, the POLAR BEAR list is corrected as of now. Check it out....and your questions of certain cards should be answered.

Again, I'm sorry that on my initial list I had posted some cards that are not possible with POLAR BEAR backs. I had merged two
lists and that was the cause of the problem.

I'll attribute my "boo-boo's" to National Show fatigue


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Emailed input of Armbruster with a POLAR BEAR back added to the list.

Still looking for more cards with POLAR BEAR backs. Or, have we listed all that there is ?

I have a feeling that this list of 248 confirmed cards may be it. The reason I say this is
explained on my follow-up thread, posted today.

Check-out my new thread...."Unconfirmed POLAR BEAR cards vs 1910 COUPON cards".

Thanks again for all your new POLAR BEAR inputs.


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Ted,
i have no new data to add but had to chime in with my appreciation for your
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also glad to see Paul M. back in the midst of things with his fast climb back
to 300 ---well on his way to 'taming' the Monster again!!!
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Thanks for these 2 new inputs. Chappelle and Ganzel have been added to the list.

We are up to 250 confirmed POLAR BEAR cards.


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Hi Ted,

The year before last I put together what I believed (and still believe) to be a complete T206 Polar Bear back subset.

I believe that there are 250 cards in this subset.

However, I do not believe Howell (Portrait) should be on the confirmed list.

I think someone confused it with Howell (Standing).

In fact, on your other thread (Unconfirmed POLAR BEAR cards vs 1910 COUPON cards), you list Howell (Portrait) as a probable No-Print.

And I've searched under most every stone for three years and have not found a Howell (Portrait) with a Polar Bear back.

So this would reduce your list to 249 confirmed with Polar Bear backs.....

But there do exist 250 with Polar Bear backs.....

Should I reveal the 250th?????

Ok.....

It is Doc Crandall (with Cap)!!!!!

If anyone can confirm any additional T206's with Polar Bear backs, I would love to know!

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You are (W)right....you will not find Howell (Portrait) with a Polar Bear back. I have sratched this card from the list.

And, I have added Crandall.

Thanks for this new input.


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OK....I'm reprising this this thread in hopes of finding a few more POLAR BEAR cards.

Posted here is the list of the 69 subjects that I would identify as POLAR BEAR No-Prints. So, check-out
this list, and see if you have any of these cards with a POLAR BEAR back ?


Abstein
Arndt
Becker
Bender (trees)
Geo. Brown (Washington)
Burns
Butler
Byrne
Campbell
Cassidy
Charles
Collins (A's)
Cree
Cross
Dahlen (Brooklyn)
Demmitt (NY American)
Dineen
Donovan (throwing)
Doolan (fielding)
Downs

Dubuc
Dunn (Baltimore)
Dunn (Brooklyn)
Elberfeld (portrait-Washington)
Fiene (throw)
Fletcher
Hall
Hannifan
Hartsel
Hoffman (St Louis)
Howell (portrait)
Huggins (portrait)
Huggins (hands/mouth)
Hunter
Killian (portrait)
Knabe
Lennox
Lundgren (KC)
Malarkey
Marquard (portrait)

Marshall
McAleese
McBride
McCormick
McElveen
McGinley
McIntyre (Detroit)
Mitchell (Cinci)
Mitchell (Toronto)
Moran (Providence)
Mowrey
Myers (bat)
Myers (fielding
Oberlin
O'Hara (NY Nat'l)
Paskert
Phelan
Poland
Rhoades (hands/chest)
Rossman

Schmidt (portrait)
Starr
Stephens
Street (portrait)
Summers
Sweeney (Boston)
Thomas
Wilson
Zimmerman


Thanks folks, for your time and effort.


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The St Louis variations of Demmitt and O'Hara were printed ONLY with the POLAR BEAR back.
[linked image][linked image]

To date, there are 250 confirmed T206 subjects with the POLAR BEAR (PB) back.

There is a good probability that this list completes the PB run. But, with the T206 "Monster" you can never be sure. Please check-out
the prior post (#29) which lists the cards that have NOT yet been found with the PB back.

One more useful tidbit of information for you T206 specialists....all 103 subjects that comprise the 350/460 and 460-only series....and,
the six Super-Prints (109 total) have been confirmed with the PB back.

Abbaticchio (blue sleeves)
Abbott
Adkins
Ames (hands over head)
Anderson
Arellanes
Armbruster
Atz
Baker
Ball (Cleveland)
Barbeau
Barger
Barry (A's)
Barry (Milwaukee)
Batch
Beck
Beckley
Bell (pitching)
Bender (no trees)
Bergen (catching)

Berger
Bescher (portrait)
Bescher (arms in air)
Blackburne
Bliss
Bradley (bat)
Brain
Brashear
Bresnahan (bat)
Bridwell (portrait-cap)
M. Brown (Chicago)
Burch (fielding)
Burchell
Burke
Bush
Camnitz (arm at side)
Camnitz (hands over head)
Carr
Carrigan
Casey

Chance (portrait-yellow)
Chance (bat)
Chappelle
Chase (portrait-blue)
Chase (dark cap)
Chase (trophy)
Clancy
Clark
Clymer
Cobb (portrait-red)
Cobb (bat off shoulder)
Collins (Milwaukee)
Congalton
Conroy (bat)
Crandall (cap)
Cravath
Crawford (bat)
Harry Davis (A's)
Davidson
Delehanty (Louisville)

Demmitt (St Louis American)
Dessau
Devore
Donlin (bat)
Doolan (bat)
Dorner
Dougherty (arm in air)
Downey (fielding)
Downey (bat)
Joe Doyle (hands over head)
Larry Doyle (portrait)
Larry Doyle (bat)
Duffy
Dygert
Easterly
Egan
Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)
Engle
Evans
Evers (bat-yellow sky)

Ferguson
Fiene (portrait)
Flanagan
Ford
Frill
Freeman
Fromme
Gandil
Ganzel
Gasper
Geyer
Graham (Boston)
Graham (St Louis)
Gray
Griffith (bat)
Grimshaw
Groom
Hallman
Hayden
Herzog (Boston)

Hinchman (Toledo)
Hoblitzell
Hoffman (Providence)
Hofman
Howard (Chicago)
Howell (hand at waist)
Hulswitt
Hummel
Jackson
Jennings (one hand)
Jennings (two hands)
Johnson (pitching)
Jones (Detroit)
Jordan (bat)
Joss (pitching)
Kelley
Kisinger
Kleinow (New York-catching)
Kleinow (Boston-catching)
Knight (portrait)

Knight (bat)
Konetchy (glove low)
Krause (portrait)
Krause (pitching)
Kroh
Kruger
Lajoie (bat)
Lake (St Louis-ball)
Lake (St Louis-no ball)
LaPorte
Latham
Lattimore
Lavender
Livingstone
Leach (cap)
Leifield (bat)
Lord
Maddox
Magee (bat)
Maloney

Manning (pitching)
Marquard (follow thru)
Mathewson (dark cap)
Mattern
McGann
McGinnity
McGlynn
McGraw (portrait-cap)
McGraw (glove)
McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago)
McLean
McQuillan (bat)
Merkle (throwing)
Merritt
Meyers
Milan
Milligan
Miller (Pittsburg)
Moeller
Moran (Chicago)

Moriarty
Mullen (portrait)
Mullin (bat)
Murphy (bat)
Murray (portrait)
Murray (bat)
Nattress
Needham
Nichols (bat)
Oakes
O'Brien
O'Hara (St Louis Nat'l)
Oldring (bat)
O'Leary (hands on knees)
O'Neill
Overall (yellow sky)
Overall (blue sky)
Payne
Pelty (vertical)
Perring

Pfeffer
Pfeister (seated)
Pfeister (throwing)
Phelps
Phillippe
Pickering
Purtell
Puttman
Quillen
Quinn
Randall
Raymond
Reulbach (no glove)
Rhoades (arm extended)
Rhodes
Ritter
Rucker (throwing)
Rudolph
Schaefer (Washington)
Schirm

Schlafly
Schei (bat)
Schlei (portrait)
Schreck
Schulte (back view)
Scott
Seymour (portrait)
Seymour (throwing)
Shannon
Sharpe
Shaw (Providence)
Sheckard (glove)
Slagle
Smith (Chicago, white cap)
Smith (Chicago & Boston)
Smith (Brooklyn)
Smith (Buffalo)
Snodgrass (bat)
Snodgrass (catching)
Speaker

Stahl (glove)
Stanage
Steinfeldt (bat)
Stovall (bat)
Strang
Street (catching)
Sweeney (New York)
J. Tannehill (Washington)
Tannehill (follow thru)
Taylor
Theilman
Tinker (bat on shoulder)
Tinker (bat off shoulder)
Titus
Unglab
Wagner (bat-right shoulder)
Warhop
Wheat
Doc White (Chicago-pitching)
White (Buffalo)

Wilhelm (bat)
Willett
Willetts
Willis (throwing)
Willis (bat)
Wright
Wiltse (portrait-cap)
Wiltse (pitching)
CYoung (glove)
Irv Young

Our Net54 POLAR BEAR expert, Craig Wright, agrees that this list of 250 cards should represent a complete run of POLAR BEAR cards.


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Hey Ted,

I owe you an email.

That list looks good to me. Thank you for your perseverance.


Eventually, what would be good, is not only lists of confirmed backs, but a master list by fronts of the possible backs.

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Listed here are the 69 subjects that I would identify as POLAR BEAR No-Prints. These POLAR BEAR No-Prints are 350-only series subjects.
All T206's in the 350/460 and 460-only series....and, the six Super-Prints were printed with POLAR BEAR backs (Total = 109 subjects).


NO-PRINTS

Abstein
Arndt
Becker
Bender (trees)
Geo. Brown (Washington)
Burns
Butler
Byrne
Campbell
Cassidy
Charles
Collins (A's)
Cree
Cross
Dahlen (Brooklyn)
Demmitt (New York American)
Dineen
Donovan (throwing)
Doolan (fielding)
Downs

Dubuc
Dunn (Baltimore)
Dunn (Brooklyn)
Elberfeld (portrait-Washington)
Fiene (throwing)
Fletcher
Hall
Hannifan
Hartsel
Hoffman (St Louis)
Howell (portrait)
Huggins (portrait)
Huggins (hands at mouth)
Hunter
Killian (portrait)
Knabe
Lennox
Lundgren (KC)
Malarkey
Marquard (portrait)

Marshall
McAleese
McBride
McCormick
McElveen
McGinley
McIntyre (Detroit)
Mitchell (Cinci)
Mitchell (Toronto)
Moran (Providence)
Mowrey
Myers (bat)
Myers (fielding
Oberlin
O'Hara (New York Nat'l)
Paskert
Phelan
Poland
Rhoades (hands at chest)
Rossman

Schmidt (portrait)
Starr
Stephens
Street (portrait)
Summers
Sweeney (Boston)
Thomas
Wilson
Zimmerman


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The POLAR BEAR tobacco brand was produced in Middletown, Ohio (Factory 6).

The Demmitt and O'Hara cards provide us an insight into the timeline when the POLAR BEAR cards where initially introduced. The New York versions of Demmitt and O'Hara
were printed prior to the POLAR BEAR press runs. Demmitt and O'Hara were then traded to their respective St Louis teams for the 1910 season. Early in May, both players
were re-assigned to the Eastern League. The St Louis variations of Demmitt and O'Hara were printed ONLY with the POLAR BEAR back. Therefore, its fair to conclude that





Imperial Tobacco (C46)....Eastern (International) League cards




To date, 250 subjects have been confirmed with the POLAR BEAR backs. The following lists these cards according to their respective T206 series.


350-only Series..................140 subjects

Abbott
Adkins
Anderson
Arellanes
Armbruster
Atz
Barbeau
Barger
Barry (A's)
Barry (Milwaukee)
Batch
Beck
Beckley
Bescher (portrait)
Blackburne
Bliss
Brain
Brashear
Bresnahan (bat)
Burchell

Burke
Bush
Carr
Carrigan
Casey
Chappelle
Clancy
Clark
Clymer
Collins (Milwaukee)
Congalton
Cravath
Davidson
Delehanty (Louisville)
Demmitt (St Louis American)
Dessau
Dorner
Downey (fielding)
Joe Doyle (hands over head)
Dygert

Easterly
Egan
Engle
Evans
Ferguson
Fiene (portrait)
Flanagan
Freeman
Fromme
Ganzel
Gasper
Graham (Boston)
Graham (St Louis)
Gray
Grimshaw
Groom
Hallman
Hayden
Hinchman (Toledo)
Hoblitzell

Hoffman (Providence)
Hofman
Howard (Chicago)
Hulswitt
Jackson
Jones (Detroit)
Kelley
Kisinger
Kleinow (New York-catching)
Knight (portrait)
Knight (bat)
Krause (portrait)
Krause (pitching)
Kroh
Kruger
LaPorte
Lattimore
Lavender
Livingstone
Lord

Maddox
Maloney
Mattern
McGann
McGinnity
McGlynn
McLean
Merritt
Milan
Milligan
Miller (Pittsburg)
Moeller
Moran (Chicago)
Moriarty
Mullen (portrait)
Murray (bat)
Nattress
Oakes
O'Brien
O'Hara (St Louis Nat'l)

O'Neill
Perring
Pfeister (seated)
Phelps
Phillippe
Pickering
Purtell
Puttman
Quillen
Quinn
Randall
Raymond
Rhoades (arm extended)
Rhodes
Ritter
Rudolph
Schirm
Schlafly
Schreck
Scott

Shannon
Sharpe
Shaw (Providence)
Slagle
Smith (Chicago, white cap)
Smith (Buffalo)
Snodgrass (bat)
Speaker
Stanage
Strang
Jessie Tannehill (Washington)
Taylor
Thielman
Titus
Unglaub
Warhop
White (Buffalo)
Willett
Wright
Irv Young


350/460 series...................58 subjects

Ames (hands over head)
Baker
Bender (no trees)
Berger
Bradley (bat)
M. Brown (Chicago)
Burch (fielding)
Cobb (bat off shoulder)
Conroy (bat)
Crawford (bat)
Harry Davis (A's)
Donlin (bat)
Doolan (bat)
Dougherty (arm in air)
Downey (bat)
Larry Doyle (bat)
Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)
Griffith (bat)
Jennings (one hand)
Jennings (two hands)

Johnson (pitching)
Jordan (bat)
Joss (pitching)
Kleinow (Boston)
Konetchy (glove low)
Lajoie (bat)
Lake, St. Louis (no ball)
Leach (cap)
Leifeld (bat)
Magee (bat)
Manning (pitching)
McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago)
McQuillan (bat)
Mullin (bat)
Murphy (bat)
Nichols (bat)
O'Leary (hands on knees)
Overall (yellow sky)
Pelty (vertical)
Pfeister (throwing)

Reulbach (no glove)
Rucker (throwing)
Seymour (throwing)
F. Smith (Chicago & Boston)
Snodgrass (catching)
Stahl (glove)
Steinfeldt (bat)
Street (catching)
Sweeney (fielding)
Tinker (bat off shoulder)
Wagner (bat on right)
Doc White (Chicago-pitching)
Wilhelm (bat)
Willetts
Willis (throwing)
Willis (bat)
Wiltse (pitching)
CYoung (glove)



460-only Series..................46 subjects

Abbaticchio (blue sleeves)
Ball (Cleveland)
Bell (follow thru)
Bergen (catching)
Bescher (hands over head)
Bridwell (portrait-cap)
Camnitz (hands over head)
Camnitz (arm at side)
Chance (bat)
Chase (trophy)
Crandall (portrait-cap)
Devore
Duffy
Larry Doyle (portrait)
Ford
Frill
Gandil
Geyer
Herzog (Boston)
Howell (hand at waist}

Hummel
Lake, St. Louis (ball)
Latham
Marquard (pitching)
McGraw (portrait-cap)
McGraw (glove at hip)
Merkle (throwing)
Meyers (portrait)
Murray (portrait)
Needham
Oldring (batting)
Overall (blue sky)
Payne
Pfeffer
Schaefer (Washington)
Schlei (portrait)
Schlei (bat)
Schulte (back view)
Seymour (portrait)
Sheckard (glove)

Smith (Brooklyn)
Stovall (bat)
Tannehill (Chicago)
Tinker (bat on shoulder)
Wheat
Wiltse (portrait-cap)


Six Super-Prints

Chance (yellow portrait)
Chase (blue portrait)
Chase (dark cap)
Cobb (red portrait)
Evers (Chicago-yellow sky)
Mathewson (dark cap)


Thanks for all your inputs,


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A picture is worth 1000 words....so, illustrated here are all 15 tobacco brands that were printed on the T206 Subjects in the 350-only Series............

Included here is the 1910 COUPON back for those of us who consider this 68-card sub-set as part of the T206 family.







Furthermore......

NOTE....the A-B-C-D connection





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What is the ABCD connection. seems more like a coincidence, no?

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No coincidence ...... Kevin


My theory (posted on this forum in 2007) is...... During the Summer/Fall 1910, American Lithographic printed the AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 (frame)......
BROAD LEAF 350......CYCLE 350......and DRUM 350 backs on identical subjects from the 350-only series.





Proof of this "A-B-C-D" connection can be found by clicking onto to the following A-B-C-D links, and cross-comparing the T206's in these confirmed lists.


AMERICAN BEAUTY....190 subjects (complete)
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=124927

BROAD LEAF.............171 subjects (to date)
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125062

CYCLE.....................190 subjects (complete)
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125615

DRUM.,....................112 subjects (to date)
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125269


Note....the BROAD LEAF and DRUM lists are not yet complete since these cards are considerably scarcer than the AMERICAN BEAUTY and CYCLE cards.


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Default 350/460 Series backs......

A picture is worth 1000 words....so, illustrated here are all 22 tobacco brands that were printed on the T206 Subjects in the 350/460 Series............


460-type backs

.................................................. ................................ Factory #42 ovpt. ...................... Factory #42

.................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ....................... Factory #25


.......................... Factory #42 ........................




350-type backs







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A picture is worth 1000 words......therefore, illustrated here are all 16 tobacco brands that were printed on the T206 Subjects in the 460-only Series............



..... Factory #25 .....

.... Factory #30 ....... Factory #42 ........... Factory #42 .....




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......................... Factory #42 ....................




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