Let's talk about Hall of Fame candidates who have been "neglected"

[Mike D.]

Originally Posted by packs

You sure about that? How do you explain the second prime of Clemens' career then? He didn't fail a test either. Was he cheating? Obviously.

Am I sure Ortiz or Clemens did or didn’t cheat? Of course not…none of us are.

Is it LESS likely that they used after testing became widespread? Yes, although obviously the testing isn’t infallible.

It’s impossible to know who used what when and what effect it had. We can know someone used something at a point in time if they test positive. We can see evidence that they used (Mitchell report, accusations from Clemen’s trainer). But approaches like “leaked test results” and “backne” are less reliable.