Let's see some uncut sheets....any sheet from 1887 - 1967

[tedzan]

Hey guys,
How's about showing off some of your uncut sheets.

I'll start this show with these 4 sheets which comprise a complete W560 set**....circa 1927


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** Incidentally, this set has been mis-classified....obviously, these are not strip cards.


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[tedzan]

Hot off the press from competing GUM company's in 1949


BOWMAN (4th series)




LEAF (1st series)




(Excuse the B/W fuzzy picture....this is an old photo of a sheet I had many years ago)



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[kmac32]

Complete uncut strip

[scooter729]

33G Sport Kings

[brass_rat]

It's not a whole sheet, but I'd like to play along...

[DaveW]

I love seeing these old sheets! I can't wait to see one from 1887

[Griffins]

Here's a few

1908 E91A strips



I"m working on a '41 Playball set in uncut form. With the ones below and a stack of others that aren't framed I'm down to needing 16.




'34 World Wide Gum


1940 W711-2 set


'48 Leaf Boxing, with a few missing their heads



These last 3 are a bit past Ted's cutoff, but they are some of my favorites so I hope it's ok to include them.

'53 Bowman


'55 Topps


'64 Topps Giants, debunking the myth of short prints that was already pretty obvious to anyone that collected this set from vending packs

[tedzan]

Thanks....Ken, Scott, Steve, Anthony....for posting your uncut sheets and panels.

Let's keep some more of these "original goodies" rolling off the presses.....as a tribute to our hobby.


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[jim]

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[MikeGarcia]

..There is no temptation to take this to a professional cutter in order to obtain a Gem Mint 10 Harry "The Hat" Walker...

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[stlcardsfan]

Does this count? Not a sheet but a box lid. And sorry it's from 1955.

[bnorth]

Amazing pieces everyone, thanks for sharing. All my sheets are way too new for this thread.

[tedzan]

1952 TOPPS (1st series) sheet....cards #41 - 80






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[tedzan]

1959 FLEER Ted Williams set....uncut 6-card panel featuring the rare "Ted Williams Signs For 1959" card (#68).






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[tedzan]

E91 Set C strip (circa 1909-1910)





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[tedzan]

The Michael Pressner & Co. issued this 24-card set in 1943. They were sold in Candy stores and 5 & 10-cent Department stores in the form of 8-card strips........


v............................................... original uncut 8-card complete strip (21 1/2 inches long) ...............................................v



Above strip enlarged






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1922 Bancroft Collins schalk

[GasHouseGang]

Should we throw this one in there? Obviously, I don't own it. Wish I did!

[tedzan]

Cards on the 6th sheet of the 1933 Goudey set were issued circa Spring/Summer of '33. This fabulous sheet includes double-printed cards
of Babe Ruth (#144).

Including Babe Ruth (card #149), Lou Gehrig (card #160), Jimmy Foxx (card #154), Leo Durocher (card #147) and Moe Berg (card #158).






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[tedzan]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Trying to put together a set of these GOUDEY cards in 1933 was quite a frustrating experience. Certain lower number cards (22 cards) were not available in
the Spring and Summer of '33.
Card #'s 97, 98, 128, 129, and 142 were printed on the 9th sheet. And, of course #106 (Lajoie) was printed on the 1934 GOUDEY Hi # sheet, and issued in
the Summer of 1934 which finally completed this 240-card set.
T'was a clever marketing trick that Goudey played on collectors in order to sell a lot of cards in 1933....but, it was also a very "mean" trick on the collectors.

Speaking about the "1933" GOUDEY Lajoie....here's the the 1934 Hi# series sheet (cards #73 - 96) in which GOUDEY modified to include the Lajoie (#106) card.






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[frohme]

T212 uncut sheet from 1911 - discussed on Net54 back in 2010, auctioned by H&S that fall (image from H&S).

Note the bottom row in the image - runs horizontal, the rest are vertical.


My interest is that T207 was likely printed via the same process (cards running both horizontally and vertically) as evidenced by an Adams card (shown previously) as well as the example from REA a few weeks ago that has parts of 5 different backs showing (image from auction).

[tedzan]

When Bowman introduced their first BB card set after WWII, they continued using their "PLAY BALL" Trademark on their wax-pack wrapper.


1948 Bowman 1-cent wrapper
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The printing of the 1948 BOWMAN set is very interesting.....the printer took their 36-card production sheet and produced a 48-card set. In their 1st press runs
they printed cards #1 - 36. Then, in their later press runs they modified their printing plates by replacing 12 cards in the first group of 36 with cards #37 - 48.

The 36-card uncut sheet shown here represents the later press runs. Cards #37 - 48 are interspersed among the lower number cards. Therefore, this process
created Double-Prints of 24 low numbers....Single-Prints of 12 low numbers....and, another set of Single-Prints of the 12 high numbers.


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[Rich Klein]

'64 Topps Giants, debunking the myth of short prints that was already pretty obvious to anyone that collected this set from vending packs
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I just want to point out that the 7 "Short Prints" are all in a row on the left side of this sheet and I wonder, as with many other Topps issues of that time is there a 2nd sheet which would confirm the long-held suspicions of those 7 short prints.

I will also state as a collector/dealer who worked on those sets, those 7 cards tended to show up on most want lists and were far easier to sell.

Also -- I know someone in the DFW area who accumulated a couple hundred (I did not count) of the Mantle and I would certainly call Mantle a Double or even a Triple Print

Rich

[brass_rat]

Originally Posted by frohme

T212 uncut sheet from 1911 - discussed on Net54 back in 2010, auctioned by H&S that fall (image from H&S).

Note the bottom row in the image - runs horizontal, the rest are vertical.


My interest is that T207 was likely printed via the same process (cards running both horizontally and vertically) as evidenced by an Adams card (shown previously) as well as the example from REA a few weeks ago that has parts of 5 different backs showing (image from auction).

Great sheet, Mike. Thanks for adding in the T207 examples as well...nice evidence.

Steve

[Mdmtx]

I wish I had a cool uncut sheet to share, but I don’t. Neat stuff gents.

[chalupacollects]

Super cool stuff!

[Leon]

Originally Posted by stlcardsfan

Does this count? Not a sheet but a box lid. And sorry it's from 1955.

Very cool. Don't remember seeing a box like that. Thanks to all who have shared??

[ALR-bishop]

From the end of the range







And one year outside range. 1968 prototypes for 69 issue. Only one of them actually used. Different color autos

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by frohme

T212 uncut sheet from 1911 - discussed on Net54 back in 2010, auctioned by H&S that fall (image from H&S).

Note the bottom row in the image - runs horizontal, the rest are vertical.


My interest is that T207 was likely printed via the same process (cards running both horizontally and vertically) as evidenced by an Adams card (shown previously) as well as the example from REA a few weeks ago that has parts of 5 different backs showing (image from auction).

Great post, Mike

Thanks for sharing this with us.


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[tedzan]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

From the end of the range







And one year outside range. 1968 prototypes for 69 issue. Only one of them actually used. Different color autos

Some great stuff here, Al

Thanks for posting it.



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[tedzan]

In some regions of the country the 1st series of BOWMAN cards in 1949 (circa..April-May) comprised of 36 subjects. In other regions, 72 subjects were available.
As a kid growing up in Hillside, NJ in our neighborhood all 72 were available.

On display here are cards #1 -3, 73, 5 - 36.





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BOWMAN printed 7 sheets (36-cards each) to produce this set of 240 cards. The first 6 sheets have been discovered. I don't know of anyone who has (or has seen)
the 7th sheet. If anyone on this forum has seen, or even has a 7th sheet (cards #217 - 240, plus 12 variations) please post it here.
Or email me at...... tedzan11@comcast.net


The major stars on the 2nd sheet (cards #37 - 72) in this series are Jackie and Yogi......

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[tedzan]

The GRAY (or SLATE) cards on this 3rd series sheet are normally either GREEN or ORANGE. This color printing mistake on this particular sheet occurred
occasionally, as a considerable number of these 17 mis-colored subjects have been found over the years.






HOFers featured on this sheet......

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[tedzan]

The BOWMAN GUM company got us kids all excited in the Summer of 1949 when they issued these 36 cards with facsimile autographs on their backs.

In 1982, I traded a 1951 Bowman Mantle (Vg) rookie card for this sheet in a Sports Shop in Media, Pennsylvania.


4th series (cards # 109 -144)





..........................HOFer .........................................and, in my opinion a HOFer
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[tedzan]

As noted earlier, to the best of my knowledge, the 7th sheet of the 1949 Bowman set has yet to be discovered. I've arranged these 36 cards based on my research.



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There are 12 new Rookie cards introduced on this sheet. And, 4 of them are HOFers.






Five retired players are included on this sheet. George McQuinn has a great story....in the twilight of his BB career of how he "sparked" the NY
Yankees into winning the AL Pennant in 1947. That June, he was the AL batting leader (.392). His defensive play at 1st base was outstanding.







HOFer's in the 12 re-printed variations





For more detailed information regarding this enigmatic BB card set, check-out the 1949 Bowman article in the Spring 1983 issue of BASEBALL CARDS magazine
authored by Ralph Triplette and Ted Zanidakis.


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[tedzan]

Hi #'s (#37 - 72) 1948 BOWMAN sheet (missing Blue and Red ink colors).






George Mikan ................... Red Holzman



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[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Hi #'s (#37 - 72) 1948 BOWMAN sheet (missing Blue and Red ink colors).






George Mikan ................... Red Holzman



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that's a really cool one Ted!

[glchen]

Here's my contribution.

[tedzan]

3rd Series uncut sheet (36 cards)









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[tedzan]

Double post.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by glchen

Here's my contribution.

wow...i've never seen one of those!!!

[tedzan]

Gary

Great looking 1935 GOUDEY sheet. These are seldom seen.


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[whiteymet]

Some of my uncut sheets

Fred

[tedzan]

Sportscard collectors (young and older) had a tough time trying to complete the 1948 BOWMAN Football set. The 1st series of 36 cards were available early in the Fall of '48.
The top line on the backs of these cards read...."NO. x IN A SERIES OF 108". However, the cards were issued "skip-numbered". A clever marketing trick that we know was in
the 1933 GOUDEY set and the 1949 LEAF BB set. BOWMAN issued this set in 3 series....the 3rd series cards were short-printed. If you were persistent in completing this set,
you would have accomplished it by December 1948.

I was lucky to have all 3 uncut sheets of this set (diagramed here on the 2nd page of this SCD article). Therefore, I wrote this article.






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[Griffins]

'55 Doubleheader panel


'57 Topps


'61 Fleer


'64 Topps panel


'63 Fleer strip- the only uncut '63 Fleer I've come across. Would love to find a full sheet


'67 Topps sheet

[tedzan]

Fred and Anthony....thanks for posting all these sheets (and Panels). Really great stuff.


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[tedzan]

Saved the best for last.....of all my BOWMAN sheets. It is my favorite sheet. The artwork & color is some of the best you will find in any post-WWII sportscards sets.

I acquired this sheet in 1982 at the Sports/Hobby shop in Media, Pennsylvania. This sheet represents the 1st series of the LARGE version (printed Fall-Winter of '52).
These 32 cards reflect BOWMAN's first attempt to compete with the very popular 1952 TOPPS BB cards. BOWMAN reprinted their smaller 1952 FB cards, which were
originally issued in early Fall of '52. With this larger version, Bowman increased the card size to 2 1/2 " x 3 3/4 ".
Football HOFer's featured on this sheet are.....Sammy Baugh, Paul Brown, Otto Graham, Charlie Justice, Y. A. Tittle, Charley Trippi, and Frank Gifford (rookie).

Since 1982, I have searched for another one of these sheets, to no avail. I guess, we can say this is a very unique piece of sportscard memorabilia.





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[seattlebaseball]

Here are two Seattle popcorn card uncut sheets, 1957 with autographs, and 1965 which shows the four cards that were issued with blank backs.

[Rich Klein]

I'd be curious if there is a 2nd 67 sheet from that series. If so, all the cards are printed equally. If not -- we have 44 DP's and 44 regular prints. Or 44 SP's and 44 regular prints depending on how you look at your glass (Half full or Half empty)

[Griffins]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

'64 Topps Giants, debunking the myth of short prints that was already pretty obvious to anyone that collected this set from vending packs

I just want to point out that the 7 "Short Prints" are all in a row on the left side of this sheet and I wonder, as with many other Topps issues of that time is there a 2nd sheet which would confirm the long-held suspicions of those 7 short prints.

I will also state as a collector/dealer who worked on those sets, those 7 cards tended to show up on most want lists and were far easier to sell.

Also -- I know someone in the DFW area who accumulated a couple hundred (I did not count) of the Mantle and I would certainly call Mantle a Double or even a Triple Print

Rich[/QUOTE]

Rich-
I've seen 3 of these sheets in 20+ years of looking, and own/owned 2 of them. They were all exactly the same.
In the '70's Dodger Stadium used to sell envelopes of '64 Giants, 25 cards for a buck. We bought TONS of them, as it was the easiest way to get cards of players that had retired before my friends and I started collecting. Koufax was almost as plentiful as Mantle (and way more popular in LA) and there were tons of Stuart, Cisco, Mays, Causey, etc. When we started trading thru the mail about '73 my friends and I put together and sold complete sets, and it didn't appear any card was tougher than others. At the monthly card meeting in Garden Grove one guy always had a table stack high with them, I assume he had access to vending cases. So based on all of this and the sheets I don't believe there were short prints on that set.

FWIW when I was putting together a high grade set about 10 years ago Johnny Romano was the card that eluded me for months in PSA 9.

[tedzan]

The Michael Pressner & Co. issued this 24-card set in 1943. Three 8-card strips comprise a set which were sold in Candy stores
and 5 & 10-cent Department stores........



v................................................. .... original uncut 8-card strip (21 1/2 inches long) .................................................. ....v





Enlarged strip (split scan)







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