How is this a PSA 4????

[greco827]

This Hal Chase looks horrible, and yet it is a 4??? Looks like it has mold growing on it or something.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/HAL-CHASE-1...QAAMXQMTlRbyt0

[Bpm0014]

It's actually pieces of tobacco from the pouch.

[trdcrdkid]

Lots of Polar Bear T206s (and T205s) have tobacco stains like that. Even so, I would expect their grade to suffer more than this. Even without the stains, that looks like a generous 4.

[greco827]

Originally Posted by trdcrdkid

Lots of Polar Bear T206s (and T205s) have tobacco stains like that. Even so, I would expect their grade to suffer more than this. Even without the stains, that looks like a generous 4.

I actually didn't consider that it was Polar Bear, and therefore in a loose tobacco pouch. Nevertheless, a grade is a grade, right? The standard shouldn't sway based on distribution method, card stock, etc.

[ullmandds]

i'd PM Kevin Mize...he can surely justify the grade for you.

[T205 GB]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

i'd PM Kevin Mize...he can surely justify the grade for you.

LMFAO Pete!!! Kevin just has a vested interest in PSA just like some have for SGC is all

[RedsFan1941]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

i'd PM Kevin Mize...he can surely justify the grade for you.

well, it is friday!!!!!

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

i'd PM Kevin Mize...he can surely justify the grade for you.

LOL!

That card could have any one of 3 qualifiers - ST, MC, OC

[Steve D]

Lately, PSA seems to be all over the place with Polar Bear backed T205s and T206s. There has been a spate of PSA-graded Polar Bear T205s on ebay lately, many with some really bad tobacco staining (at least IMHO), and in many cases, the grades seem to not take the staining into account.

Steve

[rats60]

Originally Posted by greco827

I actually didn't consider that it was Polar Bear, and therefore in a loose tobacco pouch. Nevertheless, a grade is a grade, right? The standard shouldn't sway based on distribution method, card stock, etc.

If it had stronger corners, I think you would see the stains hurt the grade. At 4, I think the stains are built into the grade. Same for centering. I have a Clemente with NM corners, but 5 centering in a 5 holder. I see cards with the same centering, but worse corners get the same grade. PSA has a set of minimum standards for grades. If they only hit one, that is the grade despite superior attributes in other areas. Cards with lesser attributes in those areas can still get the same grade as long as they meet the minimums.