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Old 11-17-2017, 09:47 AM
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i'd PM Kevin Mize...he can surely justify the grade for you.
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Old 11-17-2017, 09:51 AM
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i'd PM Kevin Mize...he can surely justify the grade for you.

LMFAO Pete!!! Kevin just has a vested interest in PSA just like some have for SGC is all
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Old 11-17-2017, 10:02 AM
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i'd PM Kevin Mize...he can surely justify the grade for you.
well, it is friday!!!!!
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Old 11-17-2017, 10:05 AM
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stains or no stains...it is a very very weak card for that grade.
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Old 11-17-2017, 10:21 AM
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If that was my card and all it got from PSA was a 4, I would crack it out and send it to Lucky Larry for grading.
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stains or no stains...it is a very very weak card for that grade.
Agreed!!!
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Card is overgraded, they do exist just as under graded cards do. thats what happens when humans authenticate and/or grade millions and millions of items, mistakes get made.
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Old 11-17-2017, 01:35 PM
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LOL!

That card could have any one of 3 qualifiers - ST, MC, OC
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Old 11-17-2017, 02:01 PM
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It's an old flip. It wouldn't get that grade today.
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Old 11-17-2017, 02:23 PM
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It reminds me of one particular dealer in the late '90's/early 2000's who made a practice of opening the slabs, taking out the legitimately graded card, and replacing it with one of an inferior nature. That having been said, a "4" for that example is really a stretch and should have been so regardless of the time period in which it was graded.

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SGC would probably give it a grade of 60...

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That is an absolutely absurd PSA 4 which makes me doubt PSA altogether. My Red Cobb PSA 4 looks 100x nicer.
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Old 11-20-2017, 11:38 AM
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It's an old flip. It wouldn't get that grade today.
So PSA grades more harshly today than say, 10 years ago? As such, do PSA graded cards in newer slabs command a premium as the grade is considered more accurate?
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Old 11-20-2017, 01:13 PM
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So PSA grades more harshly today than say, 10 years ago? As such, do PSA graded cards in newer slabs command a premium as the grade is considered more accurate?
Hopefully you're on to something here!!!
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Tobacco stains on Polar Bear cards are acceptable as well are chunks of tobacco.

PSA got the grade right based on the overall condition of the card.

Regardless of what PSA says, the condition of the card is VG-EX all day long.
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Tobacco stains on Polar Bear cards are acceptable as well are chunks of tobacco.

PSA got the grade right based on the overall condition of the card.

Regardless of what PSA says, the condition of the card is VG-EX all day long.
Agree on this...
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Old 11-20-2017, 03:20 PM
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Yes, there are many examples of newer graded cards selling at the high end of the spectrum compared to older graded cards. Some of it has to do with the grading adjustments, but some also has to do with the new tamper-evident cases. So it's not just the grade, it's the generation of flip (hologram or lighthouse) and the slab itself people are paying a premium for with a newly graded example.
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