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12-20-2021, 08:18 PM
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A psa 1?
I’m a bit perplexed. This has to be the best 34 butterfinger I have ever seen. A touch of wavy paper but no folds or creasing. The lower right corner I though made this card a 3. Can anybody explain the 1 grade. No tape or paper loss on the back? Totally clean.
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12-20-2021, 08:24 PM
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Pic?
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12-20-2021, 08:25 PM
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12-20-2021, 08:26 PM
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I would guess the grader was rebuffed by his wife the night before and came to work angry.
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12-20-2021, 08:42 PM
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12-20-2021, 08:55 PM
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I'd say it's because of the "wavy paper". Probably got wet at some point and dried out like that.
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12-20-2021, 09:00 PM
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12-20-2021, 09:47 PM
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12-20-2021, 09:48 PM
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Any paper loss on the back?
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12-20-2021, 10:34 PM
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R310s are among the most fragile "cards" I have ever handled, and are noticeably thinner and more susceptible to damage than the m101-s and 2s. I gave up collecting them for this reason. I scan them and basically put them away because any handling is risky, even in a rigid or semi-rigid sheet/holder.
Maybe there is the tiniest of edge tears, which would serve to knock down the grade. By tiny I mean 1/64" or smaller. The paper is so fragile it really doesn't "ding" when it makes contact with something-- it tends to tear, at least in my experience. Here is my Al Simmons. After I scanned it, I VERY carefully slid it into a sheet which was then slid into a rigid. As you know, even holding it between thumb and forefinger or however trying to get into a sleeve risks a spider crease, bend or wrinkle. Anyway, the R310 somehow touched the sleeve less than precisely going in and left the tiniest of tears on the bottom--smaller than the size of the dash on your keyboard. I refused to take it out and re-scan for fear it could only get worse if I dared to try the process again. Anyway, that flaw would probably lead to a "1", so maybe you have something similar--your pic is too small to see. My only other guesses would be possible erasure of light pencil or maybe a repaired pinhole. The "waviness" would not lead to a 1, IMO. 
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12-21-2021, 07:59 AM
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I’d still happily take it!
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12-21-2021, 09:44 AM
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As someone else mentioned, if it's wavy it may have water damage.
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12-21-2021, 09:47 AM
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I'm far from an expert on the set, but in general - the days of PSA or SGC or whomever grading on "the whole of the card" / appearance are long over for the most part with vintage, at least in my opinion. Now they seem to be taking the "one little thing that kills it" approach.
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12-22-2021, 02:26 AM
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Crack it out, soak it in water, dry it flat and send it back. Probably comes back as a 3 lol. Plus you'll get the added benefit of free marketing from the BODA crowd on Blowhard. It'll be fun watching them debate which edge you "trimmed" in order to get it to bump.
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12-22-2021, 08:39 AM
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The waviness is why.
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12-22-2021, 12:05 PM
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still a nice looking card and would look great in any collection. IMO
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12-22-2021, 05:20 PM
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My experience is....
They judge these larger size paper/thin issues RIDICULOUSLY harshly!! I can assure you both of the attached issues have no rippling, etc and I pegged them for grades between 5 and 7 (submitted a long time ago - so this is not just the recent harshness) - been shaking my head ever since!
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12-22-2021, 10:22 PM
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12-22-2021, 10:51 PM
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