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Old 07-19-2021, 03:45 PM
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This is just to cool...

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Old 07-19-2021, 03:51 PM
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Yes it is and it is one of the best/cleanest of his autographs that I have seen

Would be a cool piece of history to own.

It will probably go for over $75k

A voucher went for $66k on heritage last Feb 2020 and the prices have gone nuts since
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That's cool. What a signature with great provenance.
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This was in my possession from the time I purchased it from the Joe Jackson auction in the late 1990s until I sold it via Jim Stinson in 2017. I had to get a PSA LOA for the deal to go thru, and this is the PSA slab I received.
It's good to see it again !!!

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That’s amazing! Baseball-reference gives his birthday as 1887 but he’s written it in as 1888. Which is correct do you think?
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That’s amazing! Baseball-reference gives his birthday as 1887 but he’s written it in as 1888. Which is correct do you think?
Wow never noticed before. I just googled it and many different web sites have different years on his date of birth. The first 6 sites on google came up 3 for 1887 and 3 for 1888.

Very interesting
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Wow never noticed before. I just googled it and many different web sites have different years on his date of birth. The first 6 sites on google came up 3 for 1887 and 3 for 1888.



Very interesting
That is interesting. Wonder where the 1887 comes from?
His gravestone says 1888.

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According to his U.S. World War I Draft Registration Card from 1917-1918 it was 1887. I have found that birth years were often listed differently for people born in the late 1800s. When I was working on my family history I would find different birth years on different forms, etc.
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Here is the back of the form
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Wow. Hard to believe that was a form of identification once.
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amazing form and the history on it.
1887 or 1888 still an amazing player
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If this is his draft card for the first WWI draft, it was held June 5, 1917 and was for all men between the ages of 21 and 31. Maybe he made himself one year older for this entry hoping that he would be able to age out if the army went back to the same age pool at least 13 months later?
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If this is his draft card for the first WWI draft, it was held June 5, 1917 and was for all men between the ages of 21 and 31. Maybe he made himself one year older for this entry hoping that he would be able to age out if the army went back to the same age pool at least 13 months later?
Maybe, but as Robert says, there used to just be uncertainty about these things. My grandfather was never quite sure which year he was born. He put "1900" on forms, but that was just a guess.
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This was in my possession from the time I purchased it from the Joe Jackson auction in the late 1990s until I sold it via Jim Stinson in 2017. I had to get a PSA LOA for the deal to go thru, and this is the PSA slab I received.
It's good to see it again !!!
Very surprised that you let that one go. Did you have another Jackson, or did you have something else you had your eyes on?
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This was in my possession from the time I purchased it from the Joe Jackson auction in the late 1990s until I sold it via Jim Stinson in 2017. I had to get a PSA LOA for the deal to go thru, and this is the PSA slab I received.
It's good to see it again !!!
May I ask what the price of something like this was back in the 1990s
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Very surprised that you let that one go. Did you have another Jackson, or did you have something else you had your eyes on?
No I didn't have another and I wasn't wanting anything else . Let's just say a fairly well known Hollywood type made an offer to me thru Jim that I could not refuse.
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May I ask what the price of something like this was back in the 1990s
Let me just say I paid over 15 K for it at that time . The item before this license was a signed mortgage deed (one of the first to come to market signed by Joe Jackson ) that went for approximately 22K of which I was the under-bidder.
After the fact a year or so after that auction I was part of class action lawsuit against that AH for excessive shipping & handling and insurance fees. I received a very good settlement on that as well.
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