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Old 01-26-2011, 08:07 PM
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Default Consolidated access to the 15 - T206 T-brand (front/back) surveys....UPDATED

For ease of access, I have consolidated all the 15 front/back T206 surveys that I have previously posted on Net54.

Furthermore, I have also included the T213-1 and T215-1 checklists....as these sets fall under the "T206 rubric", in that they are White-Bordered,
Brown-Captioned Tobacco cards printed and issued within the 1909-1912 timeframe.



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T206 confirmed front/back surveys with respect to T-brand.


AMERICAN BEAUTY
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=124927

BROAD LEAF
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125062

CAROLINA BRIGHTS
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=133154

CYCLE
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125615

DRUM
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125269

EL PRINCIPE de GALES
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125165

Brown HINDU
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127039

Red HINDU
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125087

LENOX
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125040

OLD MILL
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125226

PIEDMONT
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=124959

POLAR BEAR
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=126471

SOVEREIGN
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125041

SWEET CAPORAL
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125458

TOLSTOI
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125242

UZIT
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125104


1910 COUPON (T213-1)
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=132360

1910-1912 RED CROSS (T215-1)
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=132552


Many here on Net54, and non-Net54er's elsewhere, have contributed to these surveys over the years. And especially, I would like to give credit to
Scot Reader, Barry Sloate, Barry Arnold, Brian Weisner, Art Martineau, Frank Wakefield, Dan McKee, Bill Brown, Jamie Hull, Lee Behrens, Dan Koochin,
Darren Duet, Drew Apoldite, Tim Cathey, Jim Rivera, Judson Hamlin, Tom Faith, and Irv Lerner .... all of whom have contributed their expertise.

Any new inputs to these surveys are greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

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Hi Ted
You made all your hard work easy for us!
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Nicely done Ted. Thank you!
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Ted, thanks so much...it is appreciated!
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many thanks, ole friend.
quite an important and stellar contribution to the hobby.
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TED!

Outstanding work!!!

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Thanks Ted, you da man!

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Much appreciated and referenced.

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Many thanks Ted,

This in and of itself should be considered a major reference in regards to the matrix of T206's.

For the record I fall into including T213-1 and 215-1 as part of this comprehensive production. If one did not have knowledge of Burdick's guide, and laid them out as you have in the scan of backs you would absolutely believe them to be part of the family.
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I'll pile on here. Thanks Ted for all your hard work!
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Thanks Ted. This is a big help to everyone interested in the subject. I still fall into that other category that doesn't believe the Coupons and Red Cross's are T206s, but we can continue that debate into eternity. I am going to have Brian put this thread into the Archives for perpetuity. That way it will always just be a click or two away. Great work my friend. I look forward to seeing you in a few months at the Oaks show. regards
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Default Thanks guys......

The intent of this thread is threefold......

1....Quick and easy access to the most up-to-date info regarding the legitimate front/back combos of the various T-brands
with respect to "THE MONSTER".

2....A fast reference for collectors, who are searching for certain players as a function of their T206 backs.

3....And hopefully, prevent the big $$$$ purchases of fake T206's that have been "re-fronted' (others say "re-backed")....,
as has occurred in the past 12 years.


The PIEDMONT (Factory #25), the SOVEREIGN, and the SWEET CAPORAL (Factory #30) lists are 100 % complete.

All the other T-brand lists are still a work in progress, and are approaching their completion. Therefore, any new inputs from
you are greatly appreciated......THANKS again.


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Entering this thread in the ARCHIVES is fine. Perhaps, sticking it at the top of the daily list for a week is a good idea, too.
Just a suggestion.


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Many thanks Ted,

This in and of itself should be considered a major reference in regards to the matrix of T206's.

For the record I fall into including T213-1 and 215-1 as part of this comprehensive production. If one did not have knowledge of
Burdick's guide, and laid them out as you have in the scan of backs you would absolutely believe them to be part of the family.
As I see it, 1/3 of us agree with you and I with respect to the 1910 COUPON cards and the 1910-12 RED CROSS cards being included
in The Monster's family. Another 1/3 disagree with this premise. Another 1/3 could care less. And then, there is Leon, who apparently
is quite "dogmatic" when it comes to Burdick's sportscards classifications. I do not think we'll convince him, otherwise. That's his opine
and that's just peachy fine.


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Ted,

Agreed. While Burdick's work was certainly monumental in the early cataloging of cards, he certainly was helter skelter as to designations.

If the 1/3 that disagree with the inclusion of T213-1 and T215-1, I ask why don't we have Sovereign Type 1&2, American Beauty 1&2, Piedmont, Sweet Cap, Broadleaf, Hindu, etc. ALL appeared in "T206" and later in T205.

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Fantastic job Ted!

I, for one, am very appreciative of the work you have done & the help you have given me personally over the last couple of yrs since my 1st purchase of T206's!

THANK YOU!
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Wow, nice job Ted. Thanks!
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Ted you need to put a book together all your hard work and research is ready to press !!!
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Ted you need to put a book together all your hard work and research is ready to press !!!
Reserve a copy for me!
Thanks for all this information.
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Ted, I really appreciate the effort it takes for a project such as this. Thanks for sharing it with us. Mike Ellis
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Ted you need to put a book together all your hard work and research is ready to press !!!
I would definitely buy it. I get so much info from reading archived threads by Ted.
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Hey Johnny Harmonica

No book, guy. What you see here is what you get. And, it's FREE !


Thanks buddy,

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Ted,

Thanks for putting this all together. I had the monster less the big 3 complete about 12 years ago. I sold it as I was about to get married. Hmmmm, hindsight !!! Long story short, I'm back in the hunt and loving it !! The backs will be a bigger focus for me this go-round and these checklists are a huge help.

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Thanks to massive help from Ted, I've typed out the entire list of possible Sovereign cards, which came to 478 total. If anybody is interested in it, send me an email at illini_grad_90@yahoo.com and I'll send it along. All I ask is that if you see any errors, let me know so I can clean it up...

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Thanks Ted. These checklists should be send to Standard Catalog of BB Cards and listed by back in there next volume.
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Default Consolidated access to 15 front/back surveys of the T206 T-brands....UPDATED

For ease of access, I have consolidated all the 15 front/back T206 surveys that I have previously posted on Net54.

Furthermore, I have also included the T213-1 and T215-1 checklists....as these sets fall under the "T206 rubric", in
that they are White-Bordered, Brown-Captioned Tobacco cards printed and issued within the 1909-1912 timeframe.



[linked image]


T206 confirmed front/back surveys with respect to T-brand.


AMERICAN BEAUTY
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=124927

BROAD LEAF
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125062

CAROLINA BRIGHTS
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=133154

CYCLE
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125615

DRUM
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125269

EL PRINCIPE de GALES
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125165

Brown HINDU
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127039

Red HINDU
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125087

LENOX
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125040

OLD MILL
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125226

PIEDMONT
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=124959

POLAR BEAR
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=126471

SOVEREIGN
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125041

SWEET CAPORAL
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125458

TOLSTOI
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125242

UZIT
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125104


1910 COUPON (T213-1)
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=132360

1910-1912 RED CROSS (T215-1)
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=132552


Any new inputs to these surveys are greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

TED Z

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Default Consolidated access to 15 front/back surveys of the T206 T-brands....UPDATED

CYCLE 460, OLD MILL, POLAR BEAR, and RED CROSS have been updated.


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Default Consolidated access to the 15 - T206 T-brand (front/back) surveys....UPDATED

RED CROSS and TOLSTOI surveys have been updated.


I will be including the CAROLINA BRIGHTS survey in this thread sometime this forthcoming week.


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Default Consolidated access to 15 front/back surveys of the T206 T-brands....UPDATED

Updated CYCLE, DRUM, LENOX, and RED CROSS lists.


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Default Consolidated access to 15 front/back surveys of the T206 T-brands....UPDATED

For ease of access, I have consolidated all the 15 front/back T206 surveys that I have previously posted on Net54.

Furthermore, I have also included the T213-1 and T215-1 checklists....as these sets fall under the "T206 rubric", in
that they are White-Bordered, Brown-Captioned Tobacco cards printed and issued within the 1909-1912 timeframe.



[linked image]


T206 confirmed front/back surveys with respect to T-brand.


AMERICAN BEAUTY
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=124927

BROAD LEAF
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125062

CAROLINA BRIGHTS
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=133154

CYCLE
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125615

DRUM
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125269

EL PRINCIPE de GALES
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125165

Brown HINDU
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127039

Red HINDU
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125087

LENOX
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125040

OLD MILL
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125226

PIEDMONT
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=124959

POLAR BEAR
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=126471

SOVEREIGN
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125041

SWEET CAPORAL
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125458

TOLSTOI
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125242

UZIT
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125104


1910 COUPON (T213-1)
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=132360

1910-1912 RED CROSS (T215-1)
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=132552


Any new inputs to these surveys are greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

TED Z
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Default Consolidated access to 15 front/back surveys of the T206 T-brands....UPDATED

Still looking for any new inputs on these lists. Please check them out.

Thanks for your time and effort.

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Default Consolidated access to 15 front/back surveys of the T206 T-brands....UPDATED

With a high confidence of certainty, I can state that the following three T206 brands in these lists are complete ........

PIEDMONT (Factory #25) ...... 522 different cards

SOVEREIGN ...... 402 different cards + the additional 6 super-prints with the Sovereign 460 backs = 408 cards

SWEET CAPORAL (Factory #30) ...... 469 different cards


The remaining T206 brands (with their various Factory permutations) in this project are still a work in progress. Therefore, any new
front / back inputs for any of these brands are greatly appreciated.

Also, always looking for new inputs (especially team info) regarding the 1910-1912 RED CROSS (T215-1) cards (Brown captions only).


Thanks for your time and effort.

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Mr. Z,

This is my very first day using this site, and what a way to get started!!! You do us a great service and I have a great deal of respect for you and your research. Thank you my Good Sir!!!

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Default Consolidated access to 15 front/back surveys of the T206 T-brands....UPDATED

Still looking for any new inputs (or any corrections) to these lists. Please check out your T206's and compare them with these lists.

Thanks again for your time and effort.

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Still looking for any new inputs (or any corrections) to these lists. Please check out your T206's and compare them with these lists.

Thanks again for your time and effort.

TED Z
I would hope that folks who have information and can help will be forthcoming with it. There is no way to make corrections, additions or deletions if no one comes forward.
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Still cannot find a CB Carrigan. I looked through all of the major auction house records that I could find and had no luck. Great work Ted.

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Ted --

I see that you have 408 as the number for possible Sovereign cards, but I typed them all out and came up with 478. Here's my list - what did I screw up?

Cheers,
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T206 Sovereign Backs Collection

Sovereign 150 Back (150 Only Series)

1) Ames (Hands at Chest)
2) G. Brown (Chicago)
3) M. Brown (Cubs on Shirt)
4) Burch (Batting)
5) Donlin (Fielding)
6) L. Doyle (Throwing)
7) Evers (Bat, Cubs on Shirt)
8) Pattee
9) Pelty
10) Powers
11) Reulbach (Glove Shows)

Sovereign 150 Back (150/350 Series)

12) Abbaticchio (Brown Sleeves)
13) Alperman
14) Ames (Portrait)
15) Ball (New York)
16) Bates
17) Beaumont
18) Bell (Hands Above Head)
19) Bender (Portrait)
20) Bergen (Batting)
21) Birmingham
22) Bowerman
23) Bradley (Portrait)
24) Bransfield
25) Bresnahan (Portrait)
26) Bridwell (Portrait, No Cap)
27) M. Brown (Portrait)
28) Camnitz (Arms Folded)
29) Chance (Portrait Red)
30) Chase (Portrait Pink)
31) Chase (White Cap)
32) Chesbro
33) Cicotte
34) F. Clarke (Portrait)
35) F. Clarke (Holding Bat)
36) J.J. Clarke (Cleveland)
37) Cobb (Portrait, Green)
38) Cobb (Bat on Shoulder)
39) Conroy (Fielding)
40) Covaleski
41) Crandall (Portrait, No Cap)
42) Crawford (Throwing)
43) Criger
44) Criss
45) Dahlen (Boston)
46) G. Davis (Chicago)
47) H. Davis (H. on Front)
48) J. Delehanty (Wash)
49) Devlin
50) Donlin (Seated)
51) Donohue
52) Donovan (Portrait)
53) Dooin
54) Doolin
55) Dougherty (Portrait)
56) Durham
57) Elberfeld (NY)
58) Evers (Portrait)
59) Ewing
60) Ferris
61) Flick
62) Ganley
63) Gibson
64) Gilbert
65) Goode
66) Griffith (Portrait)
67) Hahn
68) Hemphill
69) Herzog (New York)
70) B. Hinchman (Cleveland)
71) Isbell
72) Jacklitsch
73) Johnson (Portrait)
74) T. Jones (St. Louis)
75) F. Jones (Portrait)
76) F. Jones (Hands on Hips)
77) T. Jordan (Portrait)
78) Joss (Portrait)
79) Karger
80) Keeler (Portrait)
81) Keeler (Batting)
82) Killian (Pitching)
83) Klienow (With Bat)
84) Kling
85) Konetchy (Glove High)
86) Lajoie (Portrait)
87) Lajoie (Throwing)
88) Lake (New York)
89) Leach (Portrait)
90) Leifield (Pitching)
91) Liebhardt
92) Lindamon
93) Lobert
94) Lumley
95) Magee (Portrait)
96) Manning (Batting)
97) Marquard (Hands at Th)
98) Mathewson (Portrait)
99) Mathewson (White Cap)
100) McGraw (Portrait, No Cap)
101) McGraw (Finger in Air)
102) H. McIntyre (Brooklyn)
103) McQuillan (Ball in Hand)
104) Merkle (Portrait)
105) Mullin (Throwing)
106) Murphy (Throwing)
107) Nicholls
108) Niles
109) Oldring (Fielding)
110) O’Leary (Portrait)
111) Overall (Portrait)
112) Owen
113) Parent
114) Pastorius
115) Powell
116) Richey
117) Rucker (Portrait)
118) Schaefer (Detroit)
119) Schlei (Catching)
120) Schmidt (Throwing)
121) Schulte (Front View)
122) Seymour (Batting)
123) A. Shaw (St. Louis)
124) Sheckard (No Glove)
125) Shipke
126) F. Smith (F on Front)
127) Spade
128) Spencer
129) Stahl (No Glove)
130) Steinfeldt (Portrait)
131) Stone
132) Stovall (Portrait)
133) Sullivan
134) L. Tannehill (L on Front)
135) Tenney
136) Tinker (Portrait)
137) Tinker (Hands on Knees)
138) Turner
139) Waddell (Portrait)
140) Waddell (Throwing)
141) He. Wagner (Bat on Left)
142) Wallace
143) Walsh
144) Weimer
145) D. White (Portrait)
146) Wilhelm (Hands at Chest)
147) Williams
148) Willis (Pittsburg)
149) Wiltse (Portrait, No Cap)
150) C. Young (Portrait)
151) C. Young (Bare Hand)

Sovereign 350 Back (150/350 Series)

152) Abbaticchio (Brown Sleeves)
153) Alperman
154) Ames (Portrait)
155) Bates
156) Bell (Hands Above Head)
157) Bender (Portrait)
158) Birmingham
159) Bresnahan (Portrait)
160) Bridwell (Portrait, No Cap)
161) M. Brown (Portrait)
162) Camnitz (Arms Folded)
163) Chance (Portrait Red)
164) Chase (White Cap)
165) Cicotte
166) F. Clarke (Holding Bat)
167) Cobb (Bat on Shoulder)
168) Crawford (Throwing)
169) Criger
170) Criss
171) G. Davis (Chicago)
172) Devlin
173) Donlin (Seated)
174) Donohue
175) Donovan (Portrait)
176) Dooin
177) Dougherty (Portrait)
178) Elberfeld (NY)
179) Evers (Portrait)
180) Ferris
181) Flick
182) Goode
183) Griffith (Portrait)
184) Isbell
185) Jacklitsch
186) Johnson (Portrait)
187) F. Jones (Portrait)
188) F. Jones (Hands on Hips)
189) Joss (Portrait)
190) Keeler (Batting)
191) Klienow (With Bat)
192) Kling
193) Lajoie (Portrait)
194) Leifield (Pitching)
195) Liebhardt
196) Magee (Portrait)
197) Manning (Batting)
198) Mathewson (Portrait)
199) Mathewson (White Cap)
200) McGraw (Portrait, No Cap)
201) McGraw (Finger in Air)
202) Merkle (Portrait)
203) Murphy (Throwing)
204) Nicholls
205) Niles
206) Oldring (Fielding)
207) O’Leary (Portrait)
208) Parent
209) Schaefer (Detroit)
210) Seymour (Batting)
211) Sheckard (No Glove)
212) Shipke
213) F. Smith (F on Front)
214) Spade
215) Stahl (No Glove)
216) Stone
217) Stovall (Portrait)
218) Sullivan
219) Tenney
222) Tinker (Hands on Knees)
221) Turner
222) Waddell (Portrait)
223) Waddell (Throwing)
224) Wallace
225) Walsh
226) Weimer
227) D. White (Portrait)
228) Willis (Pittsburg)
229) Wiltse (Portrait, No Cap)
230) C. Young (Portrait)
231) C. Young (Bare Hand)

Sovereign 350 Back (350 Only Series)

232) Abbott
233) Anderson
234) Armbruster
235) Arndt
236) Atz
237) J. Barry (Philadelphia)
238) S. Barry (Milwaukee)
239) Batch
240) Beck
241) Beckley
242) Bender (Portrait with Trees)
243) Bescher (Portrait)
244) Blackburne
245) Brain
246) G. Brown (Washington)
247) Burke
248) Burns
249) Bush
250) Butler
251) Byrne
252) Campbell
253) Carr
254) Carrigan
255) Casey
256) Cassidy
257) Chapelle
258) Clancy
259) E. Collins (Philadelphia)
260) J. Collins (Minneapolis)
261) Congalton
262) Cravath
263) Cree
264) Dahlen (Brooklyn)
265) Dineen
266) Donovan (Throwing)
267) Doolan (Fielding)
268) Downey (Fielding)
269) Downs
270) J. Doyle (NY on Front)
271) Dubuc
272) Ja. Dunn (Baltimore)
273) Jo. Dunn (Brooklyn)
274) Dygert
275) Easterley
276) Egan
277) Ferguson
278) Fiene (Portrait)
279) Fiene (Throwing)
280) Flanagan
281) Fromme
282) Gasper
283) P. Graham (Boston)
284) Grimshaw
285) Hall
286) Hallman
287) Hannifan
288) Hartsel
289) H. Hinchman (Toledo)
290) Hoblitzell
291) I. Hoffman (Toledo)
292) S. Hofman
293) D. Howard (Chicago)
294) Howell (Portrait)
295) Huggins (Portrait)
296) Hulswitt
297) Jackson
298) Jennings (Portrait)
299) Kelley
300) Killian (Portrait)
301) Kisinger
302) Kleinow (NY Catching)
303) Knabe
304) Knight (Portrait)
305) Knight (With Bat)
306) Krause (Portrait)
307) Krause (Pitching)
308) Kroh
309) Kruger
310) Lavender
311) Lennox
312) Livingston
313) Malarkey
314) Marquard (Portrait)
315) McCormick
316) McGann
317) McGinley
318) McGinnity
319) McGlynn
320) M. McIntyre (Detroit)
321) Merritt
322) Milligan
323) M. Mitchell (Cincinnati)
324) F. Mitchell (Toronto)
325) Moeller
326) P. Moran (Chicago)
327) H. Moran (Providence)
328) Moriarity
329) Mowrey
330) Myers (Fielding)
331) Nichols
332) Oakes
333) Oberlin
334) O’Brien
335) O’Hara (New York)
336) O’Neil
337) Paskert
338) Perring
339) Pfeister (Seated)
340) Phelan
341) Phelps
342) Pickering
343) Poland
344) Purtell
345) Quillen
346) Quinn
347) Randall
348) Raymond
349) Rhoades (Rt Arm Out)
350) Rhoades (Hand at Chest)
351) Rossman
352) Schmidt (Portrait)
353) Scott
354) H. Shaw (Providence)
355) Slagle
356) F. Smith (White Cap)
357) He. Smith (Buffalo)
358) Speaker
359) Stanage
360) Stephens
361) Strang
362)Street (Portrait)
363) Summers
364) B. Sweeney (Boston)
365) J. Tannehill (Washington)
366) Taylor
367) Thielman
368) Thomas
369) Titus
370) Unglaub
371) Warhop
372) J. White (Buffalo)
373) Wilson
374) Wright
375) I. Young (Minneapolis)
376) Zimmerman

Sovereign 350 Back (350/460 Super Print Series)

377) Chance (Portrait, Yellow)
378) Chase (Portrait, Blue)
379) Chase (Dark Cap)
380) Cobb (Portrait, Red)
381) Evers (Chi. Shirt)
382) Mathewson (Dark Cap)

Sovereign 460 Back (350/460 Super Print Series)

383) Chance (Portrait, Yellow)
384) Chase (Portrait, Blue)
385) Chase (Dark Cap)
386) Cobb (Portrait, Red)
387) Evers (Chi. Shirt)
388) Mathewson (Dark Cap)

Sovereign 350 Back (350/460 Regular Print Series)

389) Ames (Hands Above)
390) Baker
391) Bender (Port, no trees)
392) Berger
393) Bradley (Batting)
394) M. Brown (Chi on shirt)
395) Burch (Fielding)
396) Cobb (Bat off Shoulder)
397) Conroy (With Bat)
398) Crawford (With Bat)
399) Davis (Phil, Davis on Front)
400) Donlin (With Bat)
401) Doolan (Batting)
402) Dougherty (Arm in Air)
403) Downey (Batting)
404) Doyle (With Bat)
405) Elberfeld (Wash, Fielding)
406) Griffith (Batting)
407) Jennings (One Hand Shows)
408) Jennings (Two Hands Show)
409) Johnson (Pitching)
410) T. Jordan (Brook, Batting)
411) Joss (Pitching)
412) Konetchy (Glove Low)
413) Lajoie (With Bat)
414) Lake (St. Louis, No Ball)
415) Leach (Bending Over)
416) Leifield (Batting)
417) Magee (With Bat)
418) Manning (Pitching)
419) H. McIntyre (Brooklyn and Chicago)
420) McQuillan (Batting)
421) Mullin (With Bat)
422) Murphy (Batting)
423) O’Leary (Hands on Knees)
424) Overall (Hand Face High)
425) Pelty (Vertical)
426) Pfeister (Throwing)
427) Reulbach (No Glove)
428) Rucker (Throwing)
429) Seymour (Throwing)
430) Snodgrass (Catching)
431) Stahl (Glove Shows)
432) Steinfeldt (With Bat)
433) Street (Catching)
434) J. Sweeney (New York)
435) Tinker (Bat Off Shoulder)
436) He. Wagner (Bat on Rt)
437) D. White (Pitching)
438) Wilhelm (With Bat)
439) Willetts
440) Willis (With Bat)
441) Willis (Throwing)
442) Wiltse (Pitching)
443) C. Young (Glove Shows)

Sovereign 460 Back (350/460 Regular Print Series)

444) Abbaticchio (Blue Sleeves)
445) Ball (Cleveland)
446) Bell (Follow Through)
447) Bergen (Catching)
448) Bescher (Hands in Air)
449) Bridwell (Portrait with Cap)
450) Camnitz (Hands Above)
451) Camnitz (Arm at Side)
452) Chance (Batting)
453) Chase (Holding Trophy)
454) Crandall (Portrait with Cap)
455) Devore
456) Doyle (Portrait)
457) Duffy
458) Ford
459) Frill
460) Gandil
461) Geyer
462) Herzog (Boston)
463) Howell (Hands at Waist)
464) Hummel
465) Lake (Ball in Hand)
466) Latham
467) Marquard (Follow Through)
468) McGraw (Portrait with Cap)
469) McGraw (Glove at Hip)
470) Merkle (Throwing)
471) Meyers
472) Murray (Portrait)
473) Needham
474) Oldring (Batting)
475) Overall (Hands at Waist)
476) Payne
477) Pleffer
478) Schaefer (Washington)
479) Schlei (Portrait)
480) Schlei (Batting)
481) Schulte (Back View)
482) Seymour (Portrait)
483) Sheckard (Glove Shows)
484) H. Smith (Brooklyn)
485) Stovall (Batting)
486) Tannehill (Chicago, No L.)
487) Tinker (Bat On)
488) Wheat
489) Wiltse (Portrait with Cap)

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Leon - There is no way to make accurate corrections, additions or deletions if the administrator of the list is unwilling to make those changes even when presented with the proper information. This has lead several collectors/researchers like myself to stop participating in this project.
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Default Geno......re..SOVEREIGN

There are 402 different subjects printed with this brand.

A Master Set of T206's with the SOVEREIGN backs is more than the 478 cards that you have identified.
At a quick glance, I see the following guys missing on your list......

150/350 Series

Jennings (portrait) exists with only a Sovereign 350 back.


Sovereign 350 back (350/460 Regular Print Series)

Ames (hands above head)
Baker
Bender (no trees)
Berger
Bradley (bat)
M. Brown (Chicago)
Burch (fielding)


I'll check out my info and see if we can add some more to this Master Set list.

Thanks for posting your list here,

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Thanks for the pick-up on those Ted! I must have missed them in my typing. It could have had something to with the bottle of Glenmorangie that was helping me out...

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Ted --

I added the ones you found, plus found three numbering errors...I believe I have it correct now at 489 for a Sovereign Master List. I'll edit the one above to reflect the changes for anybody that wants it...

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Default Consolidated access to 15 front/back surveys of the T206 T-brands....UPDATED

For ease of access, I have consolidated all 15 - T206 front/back surveys that I have previously conducted on Net54.

Furthermore, I have also included the T213-1 and T215-1 checklists....as these sets fall under the "T206 rubric" in
that they are White-Bordered, Brown-Captioned Tobacco cards printed and issued by American Lithographic within
the 1909 - 1912 timeline.



[linked image]


T206 confirmed front/back surveys with respect to T-brand.


AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 & 460

BROAD LEAF 350 & 460

CAROLINA BRIGHTS

CYCLE 350 & 460

DRUM

EL PRINCIPE de GALES

Brown HINDU

Red HINDU

LENOX

OLD MILL

PIEDMONT

POLAR BEAR

SOVEREIGN

SWEET CAPORAL

TOLSTOI

UZIT


1910 COUPON (T213-1)


1910-1912 RED CROSS (T215-1)



This project has been a work in progress on Net54 since 2005. Any new inputs (or corrections) to these surveys are greatly appreciated.


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Default Consolidated access to 15 front/back surveys of the T206 T-brands....UPDATED

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There are now 4312 front / back permutations accounted for in the 16 listed T206 brands in this thread.

Also, I have added some ancillary information pertinent to several of 18 tobacco brands represented here.

Just a reminder that convenient access to this thread is simply a matter of clicking onto the NET54 FORUM ARCHIVE CENTER link.
Some of these lists are complete; but, most are still a work in progress. Therefore, any new inputs will be greatly appreciated.

Furthermore, I will try to answer any questions you may have, so feel free to contact me at ...... tedzan11@comcast.net

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Default Consolidated access to 15 front/back surveys of the T206 T-brands....UPDATED

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LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING MANY OF YOU GUYS IN CHICAGO THIS WEEK.

AS IN THE PAST NATIONALS, MARK MACRAE AND I WILL BE SHARING A BOOTH WITH SAL.


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Default T206 set's Major League teams representation (vs. 150, 350 & 460 Series)

For you team specialists, here is a numeric tabulation of the Major League ballplayers from each of the 16 teams
as a function of the 3 basic Series (150, 350 & 460) of the T206 set.



TEAM .... [linked image] .... TOTAL


N Y G ........................ 21 ............................ 16 .......................... 15 ..................... = 52

Cubs ......................... 15 ............................ 15 ........................... 7 ..................... = 37

Detroit ...................... 10 ............................ 20 ........................... 0 ..................... = 30

N Y H ........................ 11 ............................ 14 ........................... 3 .................... = 28

WSox ........................ 14 ............................. 9 ............................ 4 .................... = 27

Brklyn ........................ 11 ........................... 10 ............................ 5 .................... = 26

Cleve ........................ 14 ............................. 9 ............................ 2 ..................... = 25

Cinci .......................... 5 ............................. 17 ............................ 1 .................... = 23

St L AL ...................... 11 ............................. 9 ............................ 2 .................... = 22

A's ............................. 7 ............................ 14 ............................ 1 .................... = 22

Wash .......................... 5 ............................ 13 ........................... 1 .................... = 19

Pitt ............................. 9 ............................. 7 ........................... 3 .................... = 19

St L NL ........................ 4 ............................ 13 ........................... 0 .................... = 17

Bos NL ......................... 6 ............................. 7 ........................... 1 .................... = 14

Bos AL ......................... 5 ............................. 6 ........................... 2 .................... = 13

Phils ............................ 7 ............................. 6 ........................... 0 .................... = 13

Grand total of Major League subjects in the T206 set = 388


NOTE....the Joe Doyle & Sherry Magie error cards are not included in this tally, since they are redundant subjects.


Having received many favorable emails regarding this recently posted T206 team data, I felt it was noteworthy of
adding this information to this archived "Consolidated access ......" T206 thread.

T206 team data thread:
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=141521


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Ted --

I added the ones you found, plus found three numbering errors...I believe I have it correct now at 489 for a Sovereign Master List. I'll edit the one above to reflect the changes for anybody that wants it...

Take Care,
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Geno

Downey (fielding) is a SOVEREIGN 350 no-print. So, adjust your total to 488.



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Here's the group of the 12 tobacco advertisement backs that were printed on the T206 Subjects in the 150 Series............








Note....Any back other than these 12 depicted here on a 150 series subject is a re-fronted (re-backed) fake.


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Here's the group of the 15 tobacco advertisement backs that were printed on the T206 Subjects in the 350 Series............









Note....Any back other than these 15 depicted here on a 350 series subject is a re-fronted (re-backed) fake.


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