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Old 01-27-2011, 06:50 AM
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Many thanks Ted,

This in and of itself should be considered a major reference in regards to the matrix of T206's.

For the record I fall into including T213-1 and 215-1 as part of this comprehensive production. If one did not have knowledge of Burdick's guide, and laid them out as you have in the scan of backs you would absolutely believe them to be part of the family.
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I'll pile on here. Thanks Ted for all your hard work!
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Thanks Ted. This is a big help to everyone interested in the subject. I still fall into that other category that doesn't believe the Coupons and Red Cross's are T206s, but we can continue that debate into eternity. I am going to have Brian put this thread into the Archives for perpetuity. That way it will always just be a click or two away. Great work my friend. I look forward to seeing you in a few months at the Oaks show. regards
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Old 01-27-2011, 09:26 AM
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Default Thanks guys......

The intent of this thread is threefold......

1....Quick and easy access to the most up-to-date info regarding the legitimate front/back combos of the various T-brands
with respect to "THE MONSTER".

2....A fast reference for collectors, who are searching for certain players as a function of their T206 backs.

3....And hopefully, prevent the big $$$$ purchases of fake T206's that have been "re-fronted' (others say "re-backed")....,
as has occurred in the past 12 years.


The PIEDMONT (Factory #25), the SOVEREIGN, and the SWEET CAPORAL (Factory #30) lists are 100 % complete.

All the other T-brand lists are still a work in progress, and are approaching their completion. Therefore, any new inputs from
you are greatly appreciated......THANKS again.


Leon

Entering this thread in the ARCHIVES is fine. Perhaps, sticking it at the top of the daily list for a week is a good idea, too.
Just a suggestion.


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Old 01-27-2011, 10:43 AM
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Many thanks Ted,

This in and of itself should be considered a major reference in regards to the matrix of T206's.

For the record I fall into including T213-1 and 215-1 as part of this comprehensive production. If one did not have knowledge of
Burdick's guide, and laid them out as you have in the scan of backs you would absolutely believe them to be part of the family.
As I see it, 1/3 of us agree with you and I with respect to the 1910 COUPON cards and the 1910-12 RED CROSS cards being included
in The Monster's family. Another 1/3 disagree with this premise. Another 1/3 could care less. And then, there is Leon, who apparently
is quite "dogmatic" when it comes to Burdick's sportscards classifications. I do not think we'll convince him, otherwise. That's his opine
and that's just peachy fine.


Regards, and thanks for the nice words,

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Old 01-27-2011, 11:37 AM
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Ted,

Agreed. While Burdick's work was certainly monumental in the early cataloging of cards, he certainly was helter skelter as to designations.

If the 1/3 that disagree with the inclusion of T213-1 and T215-1, I ask why don't we have Sovereign Type 1&2, American Beauty 1&2, Piedmont, Sweet Cap, Broadleaf, Hindu, etc. ALL appeared in "T206" and later in T205.

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Fantastic job Ted!

I, for one, am very appreciative of the work you have done & the help you have given me personally over the last couple of yrs since my 1st purchase of T206's!

THANK YOU!
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Old 01-27-2011, 11:59 AM
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Wow, nice job Ted. Thanks!
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Ted you need to put a book together all your hard work and research is ready to press !!!
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Ted you need to put a book together all your hard work and research is ready to press !!!
Reserve a copy for me!
Thanks for all this information.
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Ted you need to put a book together all your hard work and research is ready to press !!!
I would definitely buy it. I get so much info from reading archived threads by Ted.
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Ted,

Thanks for putting this all together. I had the monster less the big 3 complete about 12 years ago. I sold it as I was about to get married. Hmmmm, hindsight !!! Long story short, I'm back in the hunt and loving it !! The backs will be a bigger focus for me this go-round and these checklists are a huge help.

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Default Sovereign list

Thanks to massive help from Ted, I've typed out the entire list of possible Sovereign cards, which came to 478 total. If anybody is interested in it, send me an email at illini_grad_90@yahoo.com and I'll send it along. All I ask is that if you see any errors, let me know so I can clean it up...

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Thanks Ted. These checklists should be send to Standard Catalog of BB Cards and listed by back in there next volume.
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Default Consolidated access to 15 front/back surveys of the T206 T-brands....UPDATED

For ease of access, I have consolidated all the 15 front/back T206 surveys that I have previously posted on Net54.

Furthermore, I have also included the T213-1 and T215-1 checklists....as these sets fall under the "T206 rubric", in
that they are White-Bordered, Brown-Captioned Tobacco cards printed and issued within the 1909-1912 timeframe.



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T206 confirmed front/back surveys with respect to T-brand.


AMERICAN BEAUTY
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=124927

BROAD LEAF
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125062

CAROLINA BRIGHTS
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=133154

CYCLE
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125615

DRUM
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125269

EL PRINCIPE de GALES
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125165

Brown HINDU
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127039

Red HINDU
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125087

LENOX
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125040

OLD MILL
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125226

PIEDMONT
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=124959

POLAR BEAR
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=126471

SOVEREIGN
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125041

SWEET CAPORAL
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125458

TOLSTOI
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125242

UZIT
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=125104


1910 COUPON (T213-1)
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=132360

1910-1912 RED CROSS (T215-1)
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=132552


Any new inputs to these surveys are greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

TED Z

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Old 02-01-2011, 06:34 PM
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Default Consolidated access to 15 front/back surveys of the T206 T-brands....UPDATED

CYCLE 460, OLD MILL, POLAR BEAR, and RED CROSS have been updated.


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Old 02-06-2011, 02:12 PM
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Default Consolidated access to the 15 - T206 T-brand (front/back) surveys....UPDATED

RED CROSS and TOLSTOI surveys have been updated.


I will be including the CAROLINA BRIGHTS survey in this thread sometime this forthcoming week.


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