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Old 02-12-2025, 07:10 PM
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Default David Hall talks about The Wagner

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"In the grading room, it was never a question of 'is it good or bad?'. We looked at it and compared it with other T206s under magnification and it looked totally OK to me. So we graded it. The only question was whether it was a 7 or an 8. I mean the card just jumps out and slaps you in the face it's so beautiful. So we graded it, and then the book comes out, the FBI gets involved, etc. But to me, to my dying day, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that card. It's gorgeous. Probably the greatest of all sports cards. Right up there with Marshall Fogel's 10 1952 Mickey Mantle. And that's my side of the Wagner story."

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So Hall is either unable to see a trimmed card or is lying? Because the card was cut down by Mastro, that is a proven fact.
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"So we graded it, and then the book comes out"

It's made to sound like these things happened in short succession as opposed to nearly 20 years apart.
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So Hall is either unable to see a trimmed card or is lying? Because the card was cut down by Mastro, that is a proven fact.
In this video Hall speculates the FBI was obsessed with the card and this case, and he believes Mastro might have lied about cutting down the card in order to reduce his prison sentence.

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I guess Bill lied about trimming the card when he was secretly recorded in undercover videos admitting he trimmed it. Or when he recently publicly admitted he still owns the paper slicer he used to trim the Wagner.

Does David Hall have dementia or is he just another lying hobby scumbag?
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Wasn't Bill Hughes in the room? Hasn't he said that he knew the card had been cut from a sheet?

https://www.t206museum.com/page/periodical_62.html
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I guess Bill lied about trimming the card when he was secretly recorded in undercover videos admitting he trimmed it. Or when he recently publicly admitted he still owns the paper slicer he used to trim the Wagner.

Does David Hall have dementia or is he just another lying hobby scumbag?
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I guess Bill lied about trimming the card when he was secretly recorded in undercover videos admitting he trimmed it. Or when he recently publicly admitted he still owns the paper slicer he used to trim the Wagner.

Does David Hall have dementia or is he just another lying hobby scumbag?
Can't speculate as to the former, but res ip on the latter.

C'mon, Leon, regardless of your views on O'Keeffe, give your devil his due: he was right that The Card has been doctored. Please don't fall in with the fantasists who still defend 'The Card' even after the guy who cut it up admitted that he cut it up. Don't sit with Linus waiting for The Great Pumpkin. You'll miss tricks or treats.
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Our fearless leader starred in this episode. Great job, Leon! This thread was also briefly mentioned.

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