Frank chance near mint condition. Help please

[Bdt1981]

What is the black lettering bottom right corner. How to tell if this is legit card. Found in safe inside a storage unit ibought. There were 3 t206 cards and 2 big cards like the one is on.

[npa589]

...?

[Bdt1981]

Here is what I have. Any want to offer anything? They are in mint condition.

[Wildfireschulte]

Great first two posts - welcome to the Net!

[Eric72]

I’ve never seen that exact mark on a baseball card before. However, I have seen similar markings on items owned by museums. Some curators use a system of letters and numbers to mark incoming items as they catalog them.

I’m not saying that’s the case here; however, it was the first thing I thought of when I saw a closeup picture of the black markings on the back/bottom/right of that card.

[Bdt1981]

Originally Posted by Eric72

I’ve never seen that exact mark on a baseball card before. However, I have seen similar markings on items owned by museums. Some curators use a system of letters and numbers to mark incoming items as they catalog them.

I’m not saying that’s the case here; however, it was the first thing I thought of when I saw a closeup picture of the black markings on the back/bottom/right of that card.

You think it would devalue it?

[chalupacollects]

Might be from a buyback program


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[Lucas00]

As they are I think the stamps are suspicious. The fact you found Brown and chance of all players is also suspicious. The fact they are in amazing condition is suspicious (aside from the stamp). I would definitely send them in to a third party for a legit check and grading. Not making any accusations, but it's impossible to tell with those grainy photos if these are legitimate. Finding corners that sharp, raw on a t206 is like 1 in 10,000. My opinion at least.

[scottglevy]

The “big cards” are T3 Turkey Reds. The most important thing is to assess whether they are genuine or reprints. Generally extremely high grade card “finds” tend to be reprints (although a few exceptions exist). The scans are not clear enough for me to feel confident in rendering an opinion.

[Bdt1981]

Originally Posted by scottglevy

The “big cards” are T3 Turkey Reds. The most important thing is to assess whether they are genuine or reprints. Generally extremely high grade card “finds” tend to be reprints (although a few exceptions exist). The scans are not clear enough for me to feel confident in rendering an opinion.

I will get better pix. I do believe they are real deal. I'll not dare send them to anyone to get them stolen. I been researching and what I have found is jaw dropping. These appear to be the best in the world. Quality.

[Bdt1981]

Originally Posted by Lucas00

As they are I think the stamps are suspicious. The fact you found Brown and chance of all players is also suspicious. The fact they are in amazing condition is suspicious (aside from the stamp). I would definitely send them in to a third party for a legit check and grading. Not making any accusations, but it's impossible to tell with those grainy photos if these are legitimate. Finding corners that sharp, raw on a t206 is like 1 in 10,000. My opinion at least.

Also the yellow chance Is there as well. In equal condition.

[Bdt1981]

Originally Posted by Lucas00

As they are I think the stamps are suspicious. The fact you found Brown and chance of all players is also suspicious. The fact they are in amazing condition is suspicious (aside from the stamp). I would definitely send them in to a third party for a legit check and grading. Not making any accusations, but it's impossible to tell with those grainy photos if these are legitimate. Finding corners that sharp, raw on a t206 is like 1 in 10,000. My opinion at least.

Crazy thing is these cards aren't even the real gem in the safe. How about the actual original contract for hank aaron and his bat contract. Not a copy this is the real thing. I feel like it's the only real one thst exists. Even has the hole where his autograph was was taken yo put on the bat. A letter from babe ruth to his school. Real thing.

[Lucas00]

Originally Posted by Bdt1981

Crazy thing is these cards aren't even the real gem in the safe. How about the actual original contract for hank aaron and his bat contract. Not a copy this is the real thing. I feel like it's the only real one thst exists. Even has the hole where his autograph was was taken yo put on the bat. A letter from babe ruth to his school. Real thing.

I like to give the benefit of the doubt, but these are some pretty wild claims. I think you probably found the contents of somebody who got "Coach's Cornered".

[Bdt1981]

Originally Posted by Lucas00

I like to give the benefit of the doubt, but these are some pretty wild claims. I think you probably found the contents of somebody who got "Coach's Cornered".

Coaches cornered? I don't understand? I promise i have no reason to make this stuff up. And I know the claims may be wild but I'm 100% not lying or bullshitting at all. Humor me a minute if I were to have found something like I described how would I go about selling it? I'm not a collector f sports stuff of course I would like to get as much as possible but the numbers I see are beyond crazy.

[Louisville_Hugger]

Can you post better pics of the cards? To me, at least from those pics, I’d be extremely skeptical. Coloring on both looks muted, centering is perfect which you rarely see. Couple these with the stamp, the overall condition, and the backstory and there’s a high probability they aren’t legit. That said, no one will be able to give you a definitive answer by looking at just those pictures.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Bdt1981

What do you mean?

Please note - the following is a general statement; I'm not saying this is the case with the cards you've shown.

Museums occasionally write catalog numbers directly on objects in their collection. Presumably, this serves at least two distinct purposes. First, it aids with the processing of an incoming acquisition. Secondly, it serves to identify their property at a later date.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Bdt1981

You think it would devalue it?

If the cards are genuine, something about which I am not certain, the markings may very well negatively impact their value. Most collectors prefer cards without random markings, everything else being equal.

In a very small number of cases, specific markings have increased the value of a card. The most obvious example of this would be when the player pictured has autographed the card. Other examples include "back stamp" markings from particular (well known) collectors.

If you can, please post clear pictures of your cards. I suggest, at minimum, three pictures of each T206 card:

1. Front of card
2. Closeup of the player's name (from the card front)
3. Back of card

Collectively, Net54 members are exceptionally skilled at authenticating T206 cards. They will be able to tell you if you've posted images of genuine examples. That would be a logical first step in estimating value.

[Wildfireschulte]

I must say that I am impressed by the reserve that members are showing here. We all know that Bdt’s presentation has all of the hallmarks of fake ignorance regarding reprint cards. It’s just way too easy these days to find out if they are real.

Bdt - just tell us what big city you live near and we will point you to a show where a dealer can show you real T206’s and maybe even some “large cards”. You will have your answer in 5 minutes.

[Bdt1981]

Originally Posted by Wildfireschulte

I must say that I am impressed by the reserve that members are showing here. We all know that Bdt’s presentation has all of the hallmarks of fake ignorance regarding reprint cards. It’s just way too easy these days to find out if they are real.

Bdt - just tell us what big city you live near and we will point you to a show where a dealer can show you real T206’s and maybe even some “large cards”. You will have your answer in 5 minutes.

oklahoma

[ruth-gehrig]

What town in Oklahoma?

[Bdt1981]

Originally Posted by ruth-gehrig

What town in Oklahoma?

City

[Bdt1981]

Originally Posted by Wildfireschulte

I must say that I am impressed by the reserve that members are showing here. We all know that Bdt’s presentation has all of the hallmarks of fake ignorance regarding reprint cards. It’s just way too easy these days to find out if they are real.

Bdt - just tell us what big city you live near and we will point you to a show where a dealer can show you real T206’s and maybe even some “large cards”. You will have your answer in 5 minutes.

the reserve? Fake ignorance? Reprints say something along the lines of that on them. R a different date

[ruth-gehrig]

Originally Posted by Bdt1981

City

Yeah there's no town in Oklahoma named "City". Not sure your agenda here

[Bdt1981]

Originally Posted by ruth-gehrig

Yeah there's no town in Oklahoma named "City". Not sure your agenda here

For the slow people. Oklahoma City.

[ruth-gehrig]

I've never once heard it called City. Good luck on finding out about your cards. My offer to look at them to confirm they are fake for you is off the table.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Wildfireschulte

I must say that I am impressed by the reserve that members are showing here.

I don't post often, but I 100% get behind this statement! Well done, net54!

[DallasAg]

You don’t know how much they’re worth but immediately started fielding offers? How did you find Net54 if you’re not already familiar with baseball card collecting? I’m not trying to be rude; I am just pointing out why you may be met with skepticism.

If you’re completely opposed to mailing them, you could call Beckett and see if they’ll accept an in person drop off and make the 3hr drive to Dallas to get them authenticated.

I would be interested in seeing pictures of the rest of the find

[chalupacollects]

Those MLB marks look like dot matrix printing. Not older than late 1970’s or 80’s…


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[Carter08]

I’m also impressed that members are being kind here given the claims.

[Leon]

This was moved from a BST section. Get out the popcorn.
I, too, am impressed with the restraint shown by Net54baseball members.
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[Fred]

Originally Posted by Bdt1981

For the slow people. Oklahoma City.

I understood what you meant by "Oklahoma City", but that's kind of a rude way to approach this as a new member of an established board.

For what it's worth, cards with razor sharp corners like that draw a bit of skepticism from the git-go. The fronts seem a little fuzzy and washed out, which leads to more skepticism.

Perhaps you could start by posting hi-res scans or non-fuzzy pictures and not answer posts with sarcasm or what ever it is you call that.

[John1941]

Originally Posted by Fred

Perhaps you could start by posting hi-res scans or non-fuzzy pictures and not answer posts with sarcasm or what ever it is you call that.

Chutzpah perhaps?

[Vintagedeputy]

I’m sorry, but that’s some funny shit right there! 😂

[Brick442]

This thread is entertaining if nothing else. I look forward to the replies on this cold and boring Sunday in NJ.

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by Brick442

This thread is entertaining if nothing else. I look forward to the replies on this cold and boring Sunday in NJ.

What town in NJ?


Brian

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

What town in NJ?


Brian

City (Jersey) ?

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

I'm on a consignment run in a couple weeks and will be Oklahoma city. Get in touch if you'd like to show them to someone in person.

[bigfanNY]

Oh come on there is a time for being nice and a time for calling reprints ....REPRINTS!
The MLB stamp was clearly placed there to prevent anyone from thinking that they had a pair of real T206's.

[luciobar1980]

"I'll not dare send them to anyone to get them stolen. I been researching and what I have found is jaw dropping. These appear to be the best in the world. Quality"

HAHA

[Bpm0014]

This dude is a clown.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by Bpm0014

This dude is a clown.

Damn, and we just got rid of a Bigfoot!

[nebboy]

For some perspective look at bpt1981 other thread he started with better photos of the Chance T3 Turkey Red. That card also has the date stamp on LRH.

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by Bdt1981

I will get better pix. I do believe they are real deal. I'll not dare send them to anyone to get them stolen. I been researching and what I have found is jaw dropping. These appear to be the best in the world. Quality.

Comedy gold....

[chalupacollects]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

What town in NJ?


Brian

Ummm, it’s what exit?


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[frohme]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

City (Jersey) ?

That was my immediate thought on getting this far ... well played!

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by Bdt1981

What is the black lettering bottom right corner. How to tell if this is legit card. Found in safe inside a storage unit ibought. There were 3 t206 cards and 2 big cards like the one is on.

Just curious, how is it you know that the small cards are referred to as T206, but are unaware what the big cards are called? They were all issued during the same 3-year period.

You say you've been researching them, but still don't know what the "big cards" are?

[Mark17 shows a bit less restraint than others...]

[Brick442]

Originally Posted by chalupacollects

Ummm, it’s what exit?


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Haha bingo! … exit 74

[jsfriedm]

Originally Posted by Bdt1981

I promise i have no reason to make this stuff up.

I can think of many thousands of reasons.

[pitburgfan]

The only thing missing from his original post was that his uncle has the cards.

[NiceDocter]

“G’day mate… I believe my old man has a few of these in his garage..”