T206 Brown Old Mill - The Extreme Rarity

[Rhotchkiss]

According to both Ted Z and T206 Resource, there are 34 possible players with Brown Old Mill backs, all southern-leaguers. According to those same resources, only 13 of those players have been located with Brown Old Mill backs. Here is a link to T206 Resource: http://t206resource.com/Brown%20Old%...Checklist.html

In my experience (and I am no expert), there are two copies of some of 13 known-players, but I am aware of no player with more than 2 known-copies, and some have only 1 known example. This means that there are likely around 20+/- known T206 Brown Old Mill Examples, making it about as rare, or more rare, than the Ty Cobb back (I believe there are 24 confirmed examples) and the Brown Lenox.

For those who don't know, all Brown Old Mills are graded A because they are hand-cut/scrap and were not included in cigarette packs; it is believed they were a mistake and that someone forgot to change the ink between the printing of the Southern-League Brown Hindu and Old Mill backs (which are black).

I am thrilled to have picked up the Kiernan and the Helm this weekend (and was bummed to miss out on the Revelle last night in REA), both of which go well with my other two Brown Old Mills (Smith and Jordan).

I would love to see some other examples, so show your Brown Old Mills (if you got'em)

[edjs]

Man, Ryan. Those are sweet. You are putting together one amazing collection.

[DerekMichael]

Wow Ryan, two Brown Old Mill's in one weekend, huh? Not too shabby

[mechanicalman]

Stupid question from a dude who doesn't collect backs - are all the Brown Old Mills graded A for a specific reason?

[RedsFan1941]

because they are all hand cut, because they were scrap

[tedzan]

Here' are my Greminger cards which include a brown OLD MILL with a Sweet Cap Factory #649 overprint.

For additional information on these extremely rare T206's.....http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...=237816&page=4..... Post #162



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If any one here has a 1910 COUPON Greminger to offer me, so I can complete this run, please email me at..... tedzan11@comcast.net


TED Z

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[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

According to both Ted Z and T206 Resource, there are 34 possible players with Brown Old Mill backs, all southern-leaguers. According to those same resources, only 13 of those players have been located with Brown Old Mill backs. Here is a link to T206 Resource: http://t206resource.com/Brown%20Old%...Checklist.html

In my experience (and I am no expert), there are two copies of some of 13 known-players, but I am aware of no player with more than 2 known-copies, and some have only 1 known example. This means that there are likely around 20+/- known T206 Brown Old Mill Examples, making it about as rare, or more rare, than the Ty Cobb back (I believe there are 24 confirmed examples) and the Brown Lenox.

For those who don't know, all Brown Old Mills are graded A because they are hand-cut/scrap and were not included in cigarette packs; it is believed they were a mistake and that someone forgot to change the ink between the printing of the Southern-League Brown Hindu and Old Mill backs (which are black).

I am thrilled to have picked up the Kiernan and the Helm this weekend (and was bummed to miss out on the Revelle last night in REA), both of which go well with my other two Brown Old Mills (Smith and Jordan).

I would love to see some other examples, so show your Brown Old Mills (if you got'em)

That Helm card makes me jealous...as he's the only Columbus, GA player in the entire set. All other Columbus players are Ohio.

Congrats!

[MVSNYC]

Ryan, amazing group.

Ted- didn't know you owned the OM overprint. how many exist? I know it's mythical.

[joejo20]

I am digging up this older thread to ask if this would be considered a brown old mill back? The card has a strange rough cut on the sides. Thank you Joe

[Bpm0014]

The easy answer is: “If you have to ask if it’s Brown........then it isn’t”.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Bpm0014

The easy answer is: “If you have to ask if it’s Brown........then it isn’t”.

I am hoping my Persons is brown. Now I got to go check!