T206 Brown Old Mill - The Extreme Rarity

[Bpm0014]

The easy answer is: “If you have to ask if it’s Brown........then it isn’t”.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Bpm0014

The easy answer is: “If you have to ask if it’s Brown........then it isn’t”.

I am hoping my Persons is brown. Now I got to go check!

[G1911]

I know the experts disagree, but I think there are actually two browns here.

There is the brown of the scrap cards that is incredibly rare, and then there is darker brown like the one in post #10 that is not uncommon. I have an Old Mill like this, that is clearly a different color in hand, in picture, and under microscope. I think it unlikely this is due to time or fading. I have thousands and thousands of black backed T cards from the ATC project 1909-1912 - nothing except some Old Mill T206 Southern Leaguer's has toned to this brown at all. I think it unlikely a different kind of black ink that ages to brown sometimes was used only for Old Mill T206's and for nothing else from ALC/Brett/Etc.

[Rhotchkiss]

Tough to tell by picture, and I would have to see in hand and to put against another brown old mill or Hindu. But I doubt it. The old mill backs are tricky and there are all sorts of shades, including faded blacks (that look brownish) and some tend towards blue. Brown is pretty brown. I would compare it to a brown Hindu instead of a black back. Also, no Hickman brown OM has been confirmed.

[chriskim]

Watched this video a while back and it talks about brown color back however it is not exactly Brown OM. It does seem like there are diff shades of brown in Lenox but the differences are very very slight. It could be due to the reflection from the graded case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2TJXHnybEE

That "Brown" OM back being asked recently appears to be black to me.

[joejo20]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Tough to tell by picture, and I would have to see in hand and to put against another brown old mill or Hindu. But I doubt it. The old mill backs are tricky and there are all sorts of shades, including faded blacks (that look brownish) and some tend towards blue. Brown is pretty brown. I would compare it to a brown Hindu instead of a black back. Also, no Hickman brown OM has been confirmed.

Thanks for your input and thanks to everyone who replied. These cards are so scarce that I have never had the chance to see one in person. My card is not the same color as a brown Hindu but was noticeably different than my other old mill cards. Thanks again Joe

[MVSNYC]

Happy to report, I was able to do a deal with Ryan for one of his Brown Old Mills (the Jordan). It's significant for me, as it completes a 30+ year journey to acquire all 38 different backs (brands, series, factories, color variations, etc...not counting the Cobb back). Have to also thank Ryan for my Brown Lenox, as I acquired it indirectly from him, via an auction.

[MuncieNolePAZ]

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

Happy to report, I was able to do a deal with Ryan for one of his Brown Old Mills (the Jordan). It's significant for me, as it completes a 30+ year journey to acquire all 38 different backs (brands, series, factories, color variations, etc...not counting the Cobb back). Have to also thank Ryan for my Brown Lenox, as I acquired it indirectly rom him, via an auction.

Congrats Mike! Very impressive back run.

Chad

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

Happy to report, I was able to do a deal with Ryan for one of his Brown Old Mills (the Jordan). It's significant for me, as it completes a 30+ year journey to acquire all 38 different backs (brands, series, factories, color variations, etc...not counting the Cobb back). Have to also thank Ryan for my Brown Lenox, as I acquired it indirectly from him, via an auction.

Wow! Congrats on closing out an impressive accomplishment Mike, are you going to be able to post a pic of the whole group? Would be neat to see.