PSA never ceases to amaze me

[tbob]

15 years I bought a sealed 1962 Topps baseball card pack 5 cent variety. Beautiful wrapper and tightly sealed. This year at the National I dropped the pack off at the PSA booth because SGC doesn't grade packs. I paid the cost of special grading and return shipping and waited to receive it. All through August, all through September, almost all through October and finally the pack made it back jammed in a mylar holder which said "altered", no explanation of what, how, etc. I am assuming that it had to be that they tought the pack had been opened and resealed (I guess), but the customer service was horrible and the lack of any explanation is inexcusable.
Not a happy camper. Maybe the pack had been resealed (?) I have heard of things like that happening but other than the stick of gum being shattered while at PSA or in transit, it is a beautiful pack.
I don't know if anyone else has had this kind of treatment with their packs and sorry for the rant
I guess I may go ahead and open the pack, hope for some beautiful cards, oh well...

[bobbyw8469]

Very odd. If you open it, post scans!

[Cardboard Junkie]

I feel your pain. I would like to see scans please front and back? And if you open, it would be cool to make a bust out video? Please. Dave.

[tbob]

Snapped a couple of pics with my cell phone, hope they show up ok.

[sbfinley]

I'm not a pack guy, but from what I understand Steve Hart from BBCE does all of the pack grading for PSA now. They will hold every pack sub they receive for a month or two then ship them to Steve to grade out in one quick blast. If that is the case he probably keeps remarks to a minimum due to volume. The guys over on the CU forums are pretty knowledgeable when it comes to vintage packs and could probably help you out more.

[conor912]

I would think that by PSA keeping the submission fee that the sumittor would be entitled to at least a one sentance description as to why their item was rejected.

[pepis]

Originally Posted by tbob

Snapped a couple of pics with my cell phone, hope they show up ok.

Well tbob,
the tear in the upper right corner of the pack is clear indication that at some
point the pack that this wrapper belonged to originally was opened! judging
by the little bit i can see of the 2 bottom corners, both have been refolded,
my take on this pack is not a resealed job, BUT a reconstruction job meaning,
somebody obtained a loose wrapper some cards and a piece of gum put it
together with enough appearance to convince a naive buyer,
happens every week now a days.

[1880nonsports]

Originally Posted by pepis

Well tbob,
the tear in the upper right corner of the pack is clear indication that at some
point the pack that this wrapper belonged to originally was opened! judging
by the little bit i can see of the 2 bottom corners, both have been refolded,
my take on this pack is not a resealed job, BUT a reconstruction job meaning,
somebody obtained a loose wrapper some cards and a piece of gum put it
together with enough appearance to convince a naive buyer,
happens every week now a days.

seems pretty obvious once you mention it..........

[tbob]

Originally Posted by pepis

Well tbob,
the tear in the upper right corner of the pack is clear indication that at some
point the pack that this wrapper belonged to originally was opened! judging
by the little bit i can see of the 2 bottom corners, both have been refolded,
my take on this pack is not a resealed job, BUT a reconstruction job meaning,
somebody obtained a loose wrapper some cards and a piece of gum put it
together with enough appearance to convince a naive buyer,
happens every week now a days.

Pepis- you may be right but the tear you describe is actually a very, very tiny scuff at the very tip of the card edge rather than a tear, it looks like a friction scuff, not a tiny tear, and to be honest I do not remember it being there when it was submitted at National. I don't have your expertise on wrappers and packs but I can't see any refolding on the bottom corners when I examine it. When the pack was submitted at National, the slab of gum was solid and you could feel it was intact. When the pack arrived, the gum was shattered in to a million pieces.
I know the gum is 50+ years old but it is odd it could have been mailed to me (yes I bought it on ebay many years ago) and I could have had it for 15 years after that and the gum was solid but upon receipt from PSA it is hammered. Kind of odd...

[Dan Carson]

Originally Posted by tbob

15 years I bought a sealed 1962 Topps baseball card pack 5 cent variety. Beautiful wrapper and tightly sealed. This year at the National I dropped the pack off at the PSA booth because SGC doesn't grade packs. I paid the cost of special grading and return shipping and waited to receive it. All through August, all through September, almost all through October and finally the pack made it back jammed in a mylar holder which said "altered", no explanation of what, how, etc. I am assuming that it had to be that they tought the pack had been opened and resealed (I guess), but the customer service was horrible and the lack of any explanation is inexcusable.
Not a happy camper. Maybe the pack had been resealed (?) I have heard of things like that happening but other than the stick of gum being shattered while at PSA or in transit, it is a beautiful pack.
I don't know if anyone else has had this kind of treatment with their packs and sorry for the rant
I guess I may go ahead and open the pack, hope for some beautiful cards, oh well...

Then why did you use them Bob???

[tbob]

Originally Posted by Dan Carson

Then why did you use them Bob???

Dan- I used them because 1) SGC doesn't grade packs; 2) I wasn't aware I would receive such shoddy customer service from PSA until after I was the recipient of the treatment and 3) I was leary about using GAI, which grades packs, because their reputation has suffered in the last 5-6 years.
Bob

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by tbob

Dan- I used them because 1) SGC doesn't grade packs; 2) I wasn't aware I would receive such shoddy customer service from PSA until after I was the recipient of the treatment and 3) I was leary about using GAI, which grades packs, because their reputation has suffered in the last 5-6 years.
Bob

Please do not use GAI or as the sleeze balls call themselves now Global Authority. If you even get your item(s) back from them you would be really lucky.

I sent in several cards about a year and a half ago. After 4 months I sent several emails and calls with no response I finally got lucky and got Damian's home #. After several more calls I finally got them to actually look at my cards and they posted the grades and told me they would be slabbed and sent back to me in a few days. All but one card received a fair grade. I emailed back and asked if I paid them again if they would look at the card in dispute again. The only response I got was all the grades they had already given my other cards was changed to all cards altered by reglossing. Then it took me almost 2 more months to get my cards back in the same penny sleeves they were sent to them in. Plus I was charged for there grading service. They are scammers now stay away, far away.