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Old 03-05-2021, 06:16 PM
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Old 03-05-2021, 06:18 PM
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Got this email today about some kind of Natural Disaster on the West Coast. I was caught unaware!

Dear PSA Customer,

The tidal wave of submissions headed to PSA has turned into a tsunami of shipments coming ashore at our local USPS.

Frankly, too many for the local branch to handle.

So the PSA Security Team has sprung into action. Our team is physically going to the USPS branch to safely deliver the thousands of customer packages directly to PSA headquarters.

This means that your package is safe. You do not need to take any action, despite the messages you may have received from USPS.

Your shipments will be stored at our secure facility and we will diligently itemize each shipment over the coming week, at which time you will receive an email update and your order will appear in your PSA online account.

We thank you for your patience during this period of elevated activity. Your cards are in good hands.

Thank you for your patience,

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Old 03-05-2021, 06:21 PM
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Got this email today about some kind of Natural Disaster on the West Coast. I was caught unaware!

Dear PSA Customer,

The tidal wave of submissions headed to PSA has turned into a tsunami of shipments coming ashore at our local USPS.

Frankly, too many for the local branch to handle.

So the PSA Security Team has sprung into action. Our team is physically going to the USPS branch to safely deliver the thousands of customer packages directly to PSA headquarters.

This means that your package is safe. You do not need to take any action, despite the messages you may have received from USPS.

Your shipments will be stored at our secure facility and we will diligently itemize each shipment over the coming week, at which time you will receive an email update and your order will appear in your PSA online account.

We thank you for your patience during this period of elevated activity. Your cards are in good hands.

Thank you for your patience,

The team at PSA
What REALLY caught my eye besides all of it was the simple fact that all packages shipped vis USPS to PSA go to a PO Box. Isn't it standard practice to get your packages at the PO Box and bring them somewhere? Furthermore, do these security team members now qualify as Combat Infantryman? Ahhh, the things that keep me up at night......



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Old 03-05-2021, 06:52 PM
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Graded and shipped backed the day of receipt would be something else!! If SGC pulls this off PSA is going to be in trouble.
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Old 03-05-2021, 06:55 PM
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Graded and shipped backed the day of receipt would be something else!! If SGC pulls this off PSA is going to be in trouble.
I seriously doubt it.
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Old 03-05-2021, 08:08 PM
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I seriously doubt it.
You don't think they'd take some serious market share away from PSA if they were able to do same day turn around for $25 at scale? I know PSA customer's are loyal but I bet a lot of them would opt for a one day turn around with SGC vs 6+ months of waiting from PSA
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Old 03-10-2021, 11:21 AM
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You don't think they'd take some serious market share away from PSA if they were able to do same day turn around for $25 at scale? I know PSA customer's are loyal but I bet a lot of them would opt for a one day turn around with SGC vs 6+ months of waiting from PSA
Don’t misunderstand thinking I love PSA. I just don’t see SGC as an option for post-war cards. Their slabs are boring and easy to compromise. Most importantly their resale value isn’t there MOST OF THE TIME.

I view PSA’s registry (which I’m not part of) similar to what Apple offers. It’s almost a cult and can’t be penetrated.

The younger people I talk to don’t ever mention SGC. They use PSA and Beckett. I honestly believe HGA is onto something offering a slab to complement these colorful modern cards. I’m hoping both CSG and HGA become viable.

Just my 2 cents.
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Old 03-05-2021, 06:53 PM
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In order to continue to provide you with the service that you deserve, SGC quite literally has no choice but to raise our prices from a base rate of $15/card to $25/card.
Wasn't it $10 a sub a few months ago?
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Old 03-05-2021, 07:15 PM
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Wasn't it $10 a sub a few months ago?
Yes, I paid $10 per card a few months ago.
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Old 03-05-2021, 07:49 PM
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Yes, I paid $10 per card a few months ago.
I paid $15 per card in May 2020.
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Old 03-05-2021, 09:53 PM
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Truth is real.

Peace, Mike
Mike, may it be so.
I started using them nearly 20 years ago and have pumped for them since.
Some of the people left who made that place tick, and if they've got a new heart transplant that breathes fresh life into their service no one will be happier than I.

They've always been the most competent TPG in my book, while allowing that they make mistakes like anyone.
This industry needs as many valued independent eyes as possible doing the work they do, it's the only chance for standards to reach the highest level.
I'm definitely pulling for SGC.

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Old 03-05-2021, 09:57 PM
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Mike, may it be so.
I started using them nearly 20 years ago and have pumped for them since.
Some of the people left who made that place tick, and if they've got a new heart transplant that breathes fresh life into their service no one will be happier than I.

They've always been the most competent TPG in my book, while allowing that they make mistakes like anyone.
This industry needs as many valued independent eyes as possible doing the work they do, it's the only chance for standards to reach the highest level.
I'm definitely pulling for SGC.
Well said Daniel!

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Old 03-06-2021, 03:07 AM
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Last "Bulk" submission (1959 & earlier on these boards) to PSA is currently sitting at 10 months with no hope in sight on return date. Let me do the math for ya - that's like 300 days now.

Total BS - I am done with them -
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Old 03-06-2021, 07:16 AM
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I gave up on SGC back in November when my last Sub to them came back, now I will never be back. Its one thing to jack your price if you are adding features but they dont. This Peter went on a similar rant a couple times before and nothing changed, I just dont trust him. I had been subbing with them for 18 years and then I finally realized nothing was going to change and when their website, Facebook page never updated and no return to emails or calls, I seriously thought they went out of business. The only reason they are caught up is probably they stopped getting new subs because people saw the same thing I was seeing, therefore they got their backlog complete and now have limited new business and at $25 a card it will be hard for me to see any reason to submit to them when after this latest rant we won't hear or see anything for 6 months again, as that has been their track record.
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Old 03-06-2021, 07:22 AM
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I gave up on SGC back in November when my last Sub to them came back, now I will never be back. Its one thing to jack your price if you are adding features but they dont. This Peter went on a similar rant a couple times before and nothing changed, I just dont trust him. I had been subbing with them for 18 years and then I finally realized nothing was going to change and when their website, Facebook page never updated and no return to emails or calls, I seriously thought they went out of business. The only reason they are caught up is probably they stopped getting new subs because people saw the same thing I was seeing, therefore they got their backlog complete and now have limited new business and at $25 a card it will be hard for me to see any reason to submit to them when after this latest rant we won't hear or see anything for 6 months again, as that has been their track record.
they have a business that can now turn around cards in a few weeks. that is something none of their competitors can do, no matter how much money you throw at them. that is definitely worth something. I elected not to submit a few cards to BGS (they grade Star), simply because it's an 8 month turnaround. I can live without it. but a few weeks? that works.
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Old 03-06-2021, 07:54 AM
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I gave up on SGC back in November when my last Sub to them came back, now I will never be back. Its one thing to jack your price if you are adding features but they dont. This Peter went on a similar rant a couple times before and nothing changed, I just dont trust him. I had been subbing with them for 18 years and then I finally realized nothing was going to change and when their website, Facebook page never updated and no return to emails or calls, I seriously thought they went out of business. The only reason they are caught up is probably they stopped getting new subs because people saw the same thing I was seeing, therefore they got their backlog complete and now have limited new business and at $25 a card it will be hard for me to see any reason to submit to them when after this latest rant we won't hear or see anything for 6 months again, as that has been their track record.
NO RETURN EMAIL OR CALLS? i call that BS. They respond quick, i made a submission mistake the other day, emailed them, customer service brent responded within 24 hours.
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Old 03-06-2021, 09:23 AM
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I am another guy pulling for SGC.... Although I have some cards that are in PSA holders.. I could never get myself to support that arrogant company.. even if it meant that I might lose money... Just couldn't do it.... I hope that everything SGC says becomes reality but the proof is in the pudding.... Let's submit and see... At $25 a card it will change the hobby and maybe just maybe increase the value of low to mid grade commons.... Which obviously would make it much more expensive to go after set completions.....

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Old 03-08-2021, 06:19 AM
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Last "Bulk" submission (1959 & earlier on these boards) to PSA is currently sitting at 10 months with no hope in sight on return date. Let me do the math for ya - that's like 300 days now.

Total BS - I am done with them -
I am so sorry Lonnie. I hope you don't hold me responsible....I got all the paperwork filed away...as soon as I get them back, I will get them out. Look at the bright side. The cards have appreciated since then??
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Old 03-09-2021, 03:32 AM
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I am so sorry Lonnie. I hope you don't hold me responsible....I got all the paperwork filed away...as soon as I get them back, I will get them out. Look at the bright side. The cards have appreciated since then??
Bobby - Let me clarify so as not to misunderstand.

Not done with "Bobby" (as you have been a Rockstar in facilitating all of these past submissions) - Just pretty much have had it with PSA which seems to have adopted the new business model of -

"Who cares about delivering an advertised product, in a reasonable time frame? We can always just jack the price up and get more customers... pffft!"
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Bobby - Let me clarify so as not to misunderstand.

Not done with "Bobby" (as you have been a Rockstar in facilitating all of these past submissions) - Just pretty much have had it with PSA which seems to have adopted the new business model of -

"Who cares about delivering an advertised product, in a reasonable time frame? We can always just jack the price up and get more customers... pffft!"
I completely agree, they raise prices and still their turnaround is awful. I also
wonder, when they agreed to grade the whole Uncle Jimmy collection, how many peoples subs where totally delayed. This is who this company is they think they are elite as they get the best retail for being in their holders, but it does NO good if you wait months on months past the promised return date.
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