Massive theft at Dallas card show, Nearly 2 Million Dollars worth of cards stolen

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by CurtisFlood

You are correct, Ashsh is one good dude and does not deserve idiots implying things that are so far fetched. I hope they find the perps and recover all his inventory.

What exactly is farfetched in your opinion? I don't see anyone accusing him of anything nefarious. I may have to go back and read. It horrible for him, but as i stated, it seems like he came out Hot and heavy after COVID to have an insane inventory.

[SyrNy1960]

Originally Posted by Belfast1933

Amazing to me how people here dance around with accusatory “questions” that take veiled shots at a well respected dealer who was massively victimized here.

Seriously, what is wrong with these people?

Ashsh is a great guy, a respected dealer and deserves the benefit of the doubt - so sorry to see this news, Ashsh. And I hope you never any of these jagoff comments that imply anything other than empathy for what happened

Hang in there, bud. Hoping for a surprise good outcome here 🤞

Yeah, in the Memory Lane theft thread, I didn't understand it either. Focus should be on the criminals, merchandise, and how the theft occurred. Sympathy for the victim, until proven otherwise.

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by SyrNy1960

Yeah, in the Memory Lane theft thread, I didn't understand it either. Focus should be on the criminals, merchandise, and how the theft occurred. Sympathy for the victim, until proven otherwise.

+1

[gregndodgers]

If I had to bet, I would say these thieves already had buyers lined up or potential buyers. IMO, a good portion of the sports card industry is driven by collectors who have a network of buyers and sellers. So IMO, the really rare / high end stuff would likely end up in private collections and stay there for years. The other stuff will be cracked open, and then either sold raw or regraded.

I just called ten pawn shops in several big cities. Most will not take cards, but two said they will. One said they only take graded cards that are numbered, and one said they take raw or graded.

All it takes is for one of these cards to be discovered, and then the whole scheme could unravel.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by SyrNy1960

Yeah, in the Memory Lane theft thread, I didn't understand it either. Focus should be on the criminals, merchandise, and how the theft occurred. Sympathy for the victim, until proven otherwise.

There was a debate of whether Memory Lane should have continued to auction off the cards after they were stolen. If Ash were to auction these stolen cards off now I imagine there would be a similar debate.

[packs]

Do people really think the cards would end up at a pawn shop? The people who stole these cards seemed to target the case, and I'm guessing it was because they understood the value of what was inside. For them to understand cards, they'd also have to understand how easy it is to track them with flip numbers, and they'd also have to know how little they'd get from a pawn shop.

I would struggle to make sense of the theft if the purpose of the theft was to received 10 to 15% of the cards actual value at a pawn shop.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Belfast1933

Amazing to me how people here dance around with accusatory “questions” that take veiled shots at a well respected dealer who was massively victimized here.

Seriously, what is wrong with these people?

Ashsh is a great guy, a respected dealer and deserves the benefit of the doubt - so sorry to see this news, Ashsh. And I hope you never any of these jagoff comments that imply anything other than empathy for what happened

Hang in there, bud. Hoping for a surprise good outcome here 🤞

who cares if a good dude or not, nobody should have stuff they legit own stolen...

[1952boyntoncollector]

Im sure the insurance company will just pay....yeah right..

[jingram058]

No updates on this. Is the consensus belief the cards went to Mexico?

[brunswickreeves]

Just a heartbreaking story and hope they catch the group asap.

In the meantime maybe something for the hobby as a whole to rally around and take precautionary measures like using available location identification tech such as placing Apple Air Tags in card carrying cases or even somehow affix to a secondary case holder for expensive graded cards, so dealer/authorities can immediately see where their inventory is moving about.

[ALBB]

Id like to see the video ..dont have facebook chat book, etc,

might help if thousands of Net folks could see it

[theshowandme]

Originally Posted by ALBB

Id like to see the video ..dont have facebook chat book, etc,

might help if thousands of Net folks could see it

Ash posted on Twitter

https://x.com/cardzzzzz4u/status/181...864797129?s=46

[chalupacollects]

Hopefully the local PD can get cell tower pings and maybe narrow down the suspect count if these guys were communicating via cell… tie the video to the pings..


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[jayshum]

Here's an article about the theft for anyone looking for a summary of what happened;

https://sportscollectorsdigest.com/n...llas-card-show

[Lucas00]

New update, $70,000 reward has been put up by Ashsh for Return of the cards or information that leads to their return.

[TiffanyCards]

All have been added to the stolen card database.


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[Jewish-collector]

One idea for future preventions could be if there was like a Targus DEFCON Cable Alarm or similar attached to the handle of the case (or hole drilled thru the case) and secured to the table. If the thieves did cut the cable, a very loud sound would occur.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by Jewish-collector

One idea for future preventions could be if there was like a Targus DEFCON Cable Alarm or similar attached to the handle of the case (or hole drilled thru the case) and secured to the table. If the thieves did cut the cable, a very loud sound would occur.

This is a great idea. Although some members will say instead of thinking of new ideas you should be solely focused on condemning the perps that did the crime (and presumably sending thoughts and prayers to the victim).

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Is there ever an active discussion on here that doesn't devolve into political horseshit?

Originally Posted by Carter08

This is a great idea. Although some members will say instead of thinking of new ideas you should be solely focused on condemning the perps that did the crime (and presumably sending thoughts and prayers to the victim).

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[here2havefun]

Good breakdown of how the theft went down, and the coordination used by the team of 4 crooks.

https://youtu.be/obr2SUda5Rs?si=oGFqfWDYNnyRhiqh&t=270

[Lucas00]

New photo.

[CardPadre]

The quick offering of a reward makes me wonder if he’s significantly under-insured for a loss of this magnitude.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by CardPadre

The quick offering of a reward makes me wonder if he’s significantly under-insured for a loss of this magnitude.

Insurance companies often are actually the impetus behind rewards. Better to pay the reward than the claim.

[brian1961]

Well, there's hope yet. Police in Springfield, Oregon have recovered more than 4,000 stolen LEGO sets worth more than $200,000 in a massive bust following a three-month investigation. --- Brian Powell

[SyrNy1960]

Originally Posted by brian1961

Well, there's hope yet. Police in Springfield, Oregon have recovered more than 4,000 stolen LEGO sets worth more than $200,000 in a massive bust following a three-month investigation. --- Brian Powell

https://abcnews.go.com/US/police-bui...y?id=111836138

[JollyElm]

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[JustinD]

I don’t see them in this thread yet, so adding the pictures of the thief at the show on Saturday that Ash posted on twitter. Just in case anyone has Saturday photos that contain this person -

[GrayGhost]

And the material was so high end and such, U would hope if they tried to move it at the National or something it'd fail.

Hypothetically, I'd think cracking them out is the best bet to sel them. But, that has the loophole that many dealers, and rightfully so, wouldn't even think of buying such high end items unless they WERE GRADED

[Seven]

Originally Posted by GrayGhost

And the material was so high end and such, U would hope if they tried to move it at the National or something it'd fail.

Hypothetically, I'd think cracking them out is the best bet to sel them. But, that has the loophole that many dealers, and rightfully so, wouldn't even think of buying such high end items unless they WERE GRADED

In theory though how hard would it be to crack them out, sit on them for a year and grade them a little bit at a time? None of these cards are going to lose their value a year from now, they're that exceptional.

[Bigdaddy]

Originally Posted by Seven

In theory though how hard would it be to crack them out, sit on them for a year and grade them a little bit at a time? None of these cards are going to lose their value a year from now, they're that exceptional.

They won't have the patience to do that. Plus, it would be keeping the loot that would incriminate them. They'll want to turn these fast and wash their hands of the cards.

[Buythatcard]

Originally Posted by JustinD

I don’t see them in this thread yet, so adding the pictures of the thief at the show on Saturday that Ash posted on twitter. Just in case anyone has Saturday photos that contain this person -

With the technology available today, I still don't understand why so many surveillance photos are still so grainy.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Buythatcard

With the technology available today, I still don't understand why so many surveillance photos are still so grainy.

The investigators just haven't tried clicking the "enhance" button like they do in tv shows and movies.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

The investigators just haven't tried clicking the "enhance" button like they do in tv shows and movies.

LOL.

Seriously, facial recognition technology is mostly trash still. Especially at the level of resolution we're looking at here. Maybe narrows the pool a bit, but that's about it.

It's hard enough making a match when you have a clear hi-resolution shot to match up against another clear hi-resolution shot.

Just look at the guy on here that reverse Google image searches random old-timey photos to claim they are Cy Young, Joe Jackson, Cap Anson, Josh Gibson, Jim Thorpe, etc., etc., etc...

Maybe they get lucky and get a hit on one of the look-outs with the hats, and they turn on the bag man with the big hat, glasses, facial hair and blurry tattoos.

I think it's going to have to be just good old fashioned following the trail of evidence and hoping somebody f*%ks up along the way.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

The investigators just haven't tried clicking the "enhance" button like they do in tv shows and movies.

- Now that's funny!

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by Buythatcard

With the technology available today, I still don't understand why so many surveillance photos are still so grainy.

Those "photos" are pictures of a screen and zoomed in. I guarantee the original footage is a lot better than what's posted here.

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Originally Posted by Tabe

Those "photos" are pictures of a screen and zoomed in. I guarantee the original footage is a lot better than what's posted here.

OK, then why haven't they been posted everywhere?