REA: What Did You Win?

[jcc6252]

Very disappointing night with zero pickups. I was the under bidder on 6 lots.

227 E92 Mathewson
252 E95 Mathewson
255 E96 Baker
811 1933 Goudey Hubbell
845 1934 Goudey Gehrig
1869 SK Ruth

Congrats to the winners! Oh well, there's always another auction around the corner. Biggest surprise of the lots I was bidding on was the 1915 CJ Lajoie PSA 7, that went for $4,000 plus the juice. I wonder if the bidder made a mistake and did a straight bid for $4,000, instead of a max bid? It jumped from $2750, straight to $4,000.

[edjs]

Thanks for the kind words on the Shag, guys. I was nervous about it all night, as anyone in the chat room last night knows. On that note, that was a lot of fun, some good discussions going in chat last night. Gotta do it again for HA coming up.

[edjs]

Originally Posted by bobfreedman

Last One

Bob, what is that? A cigar box top? Cool, neat to see the swastika before the evil that is now associated with it. It used to be a symbol of hope and good fortune, used in many cultures around the world. It is interesting that the same symbol was used from Native American tribes to Hindus, with the oldest know example found in the Ukraine dating 12000 years ago.

[kmac32]

1912 T207 Ward Miller with Red Cycle back. Do not know who I was bidding against but got a big addition to mt T207 Cubs

[sgbernard]

Originally Posted by edjs

The other lot I picked up was the A.W.H. Shag.

Edjs, I was the closest underbidder on the Shag, but did manage to win with the E222 Sieber. I'm so so happy to add an example of this impossible type for that price, and I think you got the Shaughnessy at a really incredible price!

[bobfreedman]

Originally Posted by edjs

Bob, what is that? A cigar box top? Cool, neat to see the swastika before the evil that is now associated with it. It used to be a symbol of hope and good fortune, used in many cultures around the world. It is interesting that the same symbol was used from Native American tribes to Hindus, with the oldest know example found in the Ukraine dating 12000 years ago.

It is an original color process proof used in the production of the circa 1910 Cy Young tobacco tin. I have attached my Cy Young tobacco tin

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by pawpawdiv9

Finished my 4 Cobb run...grabbed the Cobb Bat/On.

Congratulations I know you've been looking for a while. Which one did you get?

[Huck]

I was interested in the two Tango egg cards but ended up not bidding. One, I really had no idea how to properly value the cards and two, I have a hard time starting another set when I have yet to finish the 1954 Red Heart set.

I was interested in hearing if $720 (comm included) is a good deal for the two cards?

http://www.bestofneworleans.com/blog...ll-close-oct-5

Thanks.

[Snapolit1]

Nada. But was happy to go to the White Plains show today and pick up a nice Gehrig card. Didn't pay a 20% premium either.

[sgbernard]

Originally Posted by biohazard

I was interested in the two Tango egg cards but ended up not bidding. One, I really had no idea how to properly value the cards and two, I have a hard time starting another set when I have yet to finish the 1954 Red Heart set.

I was interested in hearing if $720 (comm included) is a good deal for the two cards?

http://www.bestofneworleans.com/blog...ll-close-oct-5

Thanks.

I think it's market price for these Tango Eggs, or a bit high, but not much. But these are among those cards most commonly found, whereas you'll never complete a set with several other cards known from only one or two examples.

[Cmount76]

I was lucky enough to win the Dummy Taylor lot of cards including (2) C46 Imperials, E91A Caramel, Fan Craze, and a few Souvenir Post Cards.

I was shut out on 4 others...

[oldjudge]

If anyone won Old Judge lot #69, I would like to trade for or purchase the Donnelly card. Please email me at oldjudge@gmail.com if you can help.

Thanks--Jay

[edjs]

Originally Posted by sgbernard

Edjs, I was the closest underbidder on the Shag, but did manage to win with the E222 Sieber. I'm so so happy to add an example of this impossible type for that price, and I think you got the Shaughnessy at a really incredible price!

Seth, I was happy with the final hammer on the Shag, I had a higher autobid, always refreshing when it doesn't hit your max. That allowed me to go get the Victory Oldering as well.

Bob, that really is a cool piece now that I see it for what it really is. It will look great with that tin!

[CharleyBrown]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Nada. But was happy to go to the White Plains show today and pick up a nice Gehrig card. Didn't pay a 20% premium either.

How was the show? Wanted to go, but it wasn't in the cards with the Mets game on Friday night and birthday parties to attend all weekend.

[Bosox Blair]

Originally Posted by atx840

Love living in Canada...but

Subtotal:$2,400.00
Tax ID:NA
Shipping / Insurance:$1,000.00
Additional Shipping:$0.00
Final Balance:$3,400.00

Have no fear, Chris. I've been buying from REA auctions for 10 years. For buyers outside the US, they put a fixed huge $ number in for shipping to get you to call them and make arrangements. They will treat you right when you call them!

Cheers,
Blair

[Huck]

Originally Posted by sgbernard

I think it's market price for these Tango Eggs, or a bit high, but not much. But these are among those cards most commonly found, whereas you'll never complete a set with several other cards known from only one or two examples.

I appreciate the reply. From my research, I knew the Beschler was the most commonly found. I had no knowledge has to how many specimens have graded at the 7 and 8 level. The cards are nice looking.

[Bosox Blair]

Finally got my Cicotte E125...and a real nice one at that!

Also won a '52 home uniform worn by Harry Taylor. From what I can gather, he would have worn this uniform when he pitched a complete game win over Philly in April of '52. Shortly after that he was out of the bigs. I have no idea about uniform collecting, but this one is my size, and I plan to wear it when the time is right! And the price seemed fair to me too.

[pete zouras]

If anyone won and wants to move it please contact me at kp.zouras@verizon.net. Thanks, Pete

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Nada. But was happy to go to the White Plains show today and pick up a nice Gehrig card. Didn't pay a 20% premium either.

The premium is just part of the price. Right, Bob??

[T206Collector]

I am super thrilled to add another unique pose signed T206 to my collection. Welcome aboard Mr. Sullivan!



I am also really excited to have picked up the only signed Obak I've ever seen, and it's the future 1925 AL MVP Roger Peckinpaugh!



AND... I even added a pair of signed M101-2 from the Doc Steen collection to bring my total number up to 11!





I also picked up a dupe of Larry Doyle if anyone is interested in picking one up...

[GregMitch34]

Amazing to me how many people even here complain about paying 15% or 20% "premium" or "extra" in an auction. As you know, just means, in most cases, that the hammer price was 15% or 20% lower.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by GregMitch34

Amazing to me how many people even here complain about paying 15% or 20% "premium" or "extra" in an auction. As you know, just means, in most cases, that the hammer price was 15% or 20% lower.

I know. It's incomprehensible to me.

[btcarfagno]

I was underbidder on the Carrigan/Schulte/Doyle. Don't forget it comes with the Carrigan letter (signed by Carrigan) as well.

Tom C

[Snapolit1]

Sometimes it means you paid market price, including the premium. And sometimes it means you paid the market price and then paid 20% extra. Could mean either one depending on how informed the bidding was how efficient the market worked.

[atx840]

Thanks Blair, figured something was up.

Very happy to get this one back.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Sometimes it means you paid market price, including the premium. And sometimes it means you paid the market price and then paid 20% extra. Could mean either one depending on how informed the bidding was how efficient the market worked.

For any item I would care about, I am guessing virtually every bidder understands a premium is going to be added at the end, and bids accordingly.

[Snapolit1]

I'm not so sure that doesn't get lost many times in the heat of the moment. I'll confess I've lost track of it on occasion.

Bidding is a competition. Sometimes you just dig in and decide you're not going to lose. I've seen people overpay dramatically for houses simply because they were tired of losing and decided this time they sure as hell were going to win.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

I'm not so sure that doesn't get lost many times in the heat of the moment. I'll confess I've lost track of it on occasion.

Bidding is a competition. Sometimes you just dig in and decide you're not going to lose. I've seen people overpay dramatically for houses simply because they were tired of losing and decided this time they sure as hell were going to win.

People overpaying is a completely different issue than the premium. Been there done that and will again I am sure. But I have no idea how anyone who bids regularly in auctions can forget about the premium, but whatever.

[Snapolit1]

I think there is a good reason why certain AH's don't show you what the bid looks like with premium until the invoice arrives.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

I think there is a good reason why certain AH's don't show you what the bid looks like with premium until the invoice arrives.

Heritage computes it for you and they get phenomenal prices.

[bcbgcbrcb]

I thought that the Rube Foster cabinet photo went for a healthy price given the state of the Negro League market these days. Also, thought that the '52 Xalapa team photo w/Dihigo & Buck Leonard was quite a bargain for someone......

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by btcarfagno

I was underbidder on the Carrigan/Schulte/Doyle. Don't forget it comes with the Carrigan letter (signed by Carrigan) as well.

Tom C

Yes! That's one of the reasons I was so interested!

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

People overpaying is a completely different issue than the premium. Been there done that and will again I am sure. But I have no idea how anyone who bids regularly in auctions can forget about the premium, but whatever.

I don't necessarily "forget" about the buyers premium so much as underestimate it!!!!

Something about the big auctions...especially REA that gets me to overpay!!!!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

I don't necessarily "forget" about the buyers premium so much as underestimate it!!!!

Something about the big auctions...especially REA that gets me to overpay!!!!

You are the exception that proves most rules.

[Stonepony]

My shutout won me the opportunity to bid in Heritage.

[mybuddyinc]

Won Lot 426 --- 139 T206s.

Of the only 24 cards listed and shown, really only need this fellow

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Going to be FUN opening and seeing what the other 115 cards look like. Decent (good) price, and it'll keep off the streets for a while .......


Great stuff, Scott

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

Sam nice pick up of the CJ Lajoie! and Blair that jersey if freikin awesome! You gotta take some pictures when you put it on.

Does anyone know who won the A.J. Reach tin advertising sign? I thought it was the one of the coolest items in the whole shebang. And at $45k one of the priciest!

I was able to finish my '14 CJ set by locking down the JJ! and decided to upgrade my favorite all-time card to this PSA 5 Cobb. Won some upgrades to my CJ set and a nice T206 Cobb Red and #181 Goudey Ruth. My favorite item of the night though was the type I photo of Tris Speaker with his trademark sneer.

[kailes2872]

I am having some remorse. I thought long and hard about the 33 Delong Lionel Carter set. I know that I can get a 33 Delong set in the future, but I doubt I will ever be able to get that set! It went for 5 grand + 1 grand BP. I stopped at 4 grand. It was at $4,750 last night and had been there for a while. It went up only $250. I woke up early this morning for the 1/2 Marathon and the auction hadn't closed yet. I am getting ready to buy a motorcycle this month, so my wife and I agreed that it was an either/or proposition. At breakfast, I thought that I am pretty deep into my 54, 55, and 56 sets with each probably pushing 5-6k with the number of grade 6 & 7 superstars and HOFers. I don't want to sell them, but I knew that I could get them again - but I would not be able to get Carter's Delongs. So, I had a quick conversation with the Mrs about using consignment credit for the sake of making one final push (I would pay up front, but the understanding was that I would consign in the fall and reimburse the account). I would then make whatever set I sold be my next project and start again.

I got the head nod, was getting ready to make one final push as I had gotten final warning. I popped open the computer and it had just closed. Maybe 5250 or 5500 doesn't get it, but I am going to wish I pulled the trigger...

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by kailes2872

I am having some remorse. I thought long and hard about the 33 Delong Lionel Carter set. I know that I can get a 33 Delong set in the future, but I doubt I will ever be able to get that set! It went for 5 grand + 1 grand BP. I stopped at 4 grand. It was at $4,750 last night and had been there for a while. It went up only $250. I woke up early this morning for the 1/2 Marathon and the auction hadn't closed yet. I am getting ready to buy a motorcycle this month, so my wife and I agreed that it was an either/or proposition. At breakfast, I thought that I am pretty deep into my 54, 55, and 56 sets with each probably pushing 5-6k with the number of grade 6 & 7 superstars and HOFers. I don't want to sell them, but I knew that I could get them again - but I would not be able to get Carter's Delongs. So, I had a quick conversation with the Mrs about using consignment credit for the sake of making one final push (I would pay up front, but the understanding was that I would consign in the fall and reimburse the account). I would then make whatever set I sold be my next project and start again.

I got the head nod, was getting ready to make one final push as I had gotten final warning. I popped open the computer and it had just closed. Maybe 5250 or 5500 doesn't get it, but I am going to wish I pulled the trigger...

Yeah the one consolation in those situations is that it's quite possible the next bid wouldn't have won it anyhow. Been there done that for sure.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by trobba

Won this and a couple others...was quite pleased with price on this one.

Rob

Excellent card Rob.

[Huck]

Originally Posted by kailes2872

I am having some remorse. I thought long and hard about the 33 Delong Lionel Carter set. I know that I can get a 33 Delong set in the future, but I doubt I will ever be able to get that set! It went for 5 grand + 1 grand BP. I stopped at 4 grand. It was at $4,750 last night and had been there for a while. It went up only $250. I woke up early this morning for the 1/2 Marathon and the auction hadn't closed yet. I am getting ready to buy a motorcycle this month, so my wife and I agreed that it was an either/or proposition. At breakfast, I thought that I am pretty deep into my 54, 55, and 56 sets with each probably pushing 5-6k with the number of grade 6 & 7 superstars and HOFers. I don't want to sell them, but I knew that I could get them again - but I would not be able to get Carter's Delongs. So, I had a quick conversation with the Mrs about using consignment credit for the sake of making one final push (I would pay up front, but the understanding was that I would consign in the fall and reimburse the account). I would then make whatever set I sold be my next project and start again.

I got the head nod, was getting ready to make one final push as I had gotten final warning. I popped open the computer and it had just closed. Maybe 5250 or 5500 doesn't get it, but I am going to wish I pulled the trigger...

That Delong set was really nice. I was watching that lot, just to see what kind of price it would fetch.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I know. It's incomprehensible to me.

Peter & Greg- I make my adjusted ceiling price with the premium added in - I'm never surprised by it, just disappointed it keeps me from landing some cards I want:

Example from this REA auction:

I already have a N28 Ward & a N162 Kelly, but I was looking to upgrade as I prefer all my cards to be in at least EX grade (my Ward is a PSA-4 and Kelly SGC-40).

I got the REA Ward SGC-80 for $60 less than I had figured to spend, but the PSA-5 Kelly went above my limit of 4250 + 850= 5100. The hammer price at 5K to become 6K altogether, which was $900 more than I was willing to go...and I thought I would be overpaying at that.

Again, I was fully prepared for the premium, it just keeps me from getting my upgrade.

If the same card had shown up on Ebay, I may have been able to afford it...of course the other side of the argument is that since nobody would be paying the premium, they could all spend more and the same final price may very well be the result.

Perhaps I would have considered laying out more if this was not just an upgrade situation.

-Raymond

[Bosox Blair]

Originally Posted by ajjohnsonsoxfan

Blair that jersey if freikin awesome! You gotta take some pictures when you put it on.

Hey A.J.,

Thanks for the nice words! I'll do that for sure.

You scored big-time in this auction - way to go on the 1914 CJs!

Great, great stuff.

Cheers,
Blair

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

For any item I would care about, I am guessing virtually every bidder understands a premium is going to be added at the end, and bids accordingly.

Four of my five biggest cards I won in these type of auctions. And I always knew how much I was bidding.

[Sean]

Does anyone know who got the T206 M. Brown/ BL 460? I really wanted it, but at $24,000 I couldn't compete.

Maybe David Hall? Just curious.

[Stonepony]

AJ- Huge night! Congrats

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Stonepony

AJ- Huge night! Congrats

i'd say!!!! great pickups everyone!

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

You are the exception that proves most rules.

i believe u are right!!!!

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by Stonepony

AJ- Huge night! Congrats

+1 I believe that's what the kids call "dropping the mic".

[Sean]

Originally Posted by kailes2872

I am having some remorse. I thought long and hard about the 33 Delong Lionel Carter set. I know that I can get a 33 Delong set in the future, but I doubt I will ever be able to get that set! It went for 5 grand + 1 grand BP. I stopped at 4 grand. It was at $4,750 last night and had been there for a while. It went up only $250. I woke up early this morning for the 1/2 Marathon and the auction hadn't closed yet. I am getting ready to buy a motorcycle this month, so my wife and I agreed that it was an either/or proposition. At breakfast, I thought that I am pretty deep into my 54, 55, and 56 sets with each probably pushing 5-6k with the number of grade 6 & 7 superstars and HOFers. I don't want to sell them, but I knew that I could get them again - but I would not be able to get Carter's Delongs. So, I had a quick conversation with the Mrs about using consignment credit for the sake of making one final push (I would pay up front, but the understanding was that I would consign in the fall and reimburse the account). I would then make whatever set I sold be my next project and start again.

I got the head nod, was getting ready to make one final push as I had gotten final warning. I popped open the computer and it had just closed. Maybe 5250 or 5500 doesn't get it, but I am going to wish I pulled the trigger...

Back in 2004 I had the high bid on a T206 Wagner (Authentic) going to the last day. Two more bids came in, and I couldn't go higher.

I told this story to my current girlfriend. We met in 2005. She always says that if she had been there, she would have helped me, and we couldhave gotten a Wagner.

Except for this: I found out that the winner of that card was Keith Olberrman. I could have made multiple bids, and he still would have beat me. So maybe you would have gotten them with one more bid, and maybe not. Could be someone wanted them much more that you did. Lets hope that you get another chance soon.