OT: Who would you put on your sports Mt. Rushmore. This is harder than it sounds...

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Other than that Mrs. Lincoln how was the play? Oh and he only hit .342.

Oh so sorry, guess I should have made it clearer he can hit.


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[jason.1969]

In chaos theory, we would say the dynamical system that is this thread has made its way toward the two attractors of "Manning v Brady" and "Ruth v Mays." We could come back in 30 more posts and see the same debates in their same unresolved states...or just recognize that ALL these folks already have a HOF to enshrine their legacies. So if we're building an alternate shrine, how about Rose, Shoeless Joe, Bonds, and Clemens?

[jason.1969]

Here's a headline of the future:

"Billionaire sports fan creates Mt Rushmore of sports greats; Jordan sues over use of his likeness."

[HOF Auto Rookies]

I haven't made a list yet, but I see a lot of Gretzky. Would this be an "American Monument" like we actually have? Or can we include the likes of Gretzky?


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[rats60]

Originally Posted by HOF Auto Rookies

I haven't made a list yet, but I see a lot of Gretzky. Would this be an "American Monument" like we actually have? Or can we include the likes of Gretzky?


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You can put anyone you like, but being arguably the best at a minor sport doesn't necessarily make someone top 4. Several people have put Pele on the list.I think he is a better choice. I don't see how you can have a list without Ali, not only was he the best, but his stance against the Vietnam War and international impact after his career are more compelling. Are you going to have a NFL player? Seems difficult to leave out the most popular sport, at least in the US. I went with 1 baseball. 1 basketball, 1 football and 1 other sport.

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by rats60

You can put anyone you like, but being arguably the best at a minor sport doesn't necessarily make someone top 4. Several people have put Pele on the list.I think he is a better choice. I don't see how you can have a list without Ali, not only was he the best, but his stance against the Vietnam War and international impact after his career are more compelling. Are you going to have a NFL player? Seems difficult to leave out the most popular sport, at least in the US. I went with 1 baseball. 1 basketball, 1 football and 1 other sport.

For me, I am leaning towards Ali, Ruth for sure. Others, don't know..


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[rats60]

Originally Posted by HOF Auto Rookies

For me, I am leaning towards Ali, Ruth for sure. Others, don't know..


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ESPN's top 4 was Jordan, Ruth, Ali and Jim Brown.

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by rats60

ESPN's top 4 was Jordan, Ruth, Ali and Jim Brown.

I was thinking close to that, if I were to stick with the 4 major US sports, football is where I'm struggling.


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[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by rats60

ESPN's top 4 was Jordan, Ruth, Ali and Jim Brown.

Hard to argue with that, although I don't see Brown as having much cultural importance outside FB (yeah the Dirty Dozen was great but whatever) whereas the others transcended sport. Which is why my fourth was Pele, symbol of the most popular sport in the world.

[esd10]

john l Sullivan
ty cobb
jim Thorpe
Michael phelps

[Steve D]

Jesse Owens

Jackie Robinson

Jim Thorpe

Babe Ruth





Steve

[Exhibitman]

I will take a different spin: who would I like my child to look at as a role model?

Barney Ross (patriotism and selflessness), Aaron (grace), Robinson (courage), Clemente (humanity)



Per Wikipedia: "In retirement in his early thirties, Ross enlisted in the United States Marine Corps in April 1942 to fight in World War II. ... He was sent to the Pacific theater. He served with B Company, 1st Battalion, 8th Marines during the Battle of Guadalcanal in the South Pacific. One night, he and three other comrades were trapped under enemy fire. All four were wounded; Ross was the only one able to fight. Ross gathered his comrades' rifles and grenades and single-handedly fought nearly two dozen Japanese soldiers over an entire night, killing them all by morning. Two of the Marines died, but he carried the third on his shoulders to safety; the other man weighed 230 lb (104 kg) compared to Ross' 140 lb (64 kg). Ross was awarded America's third highest military honor, the Silver Star, as well as a presidential citation. ... He was inducted into the Marine Corps Sports Hall of Fame in the Class of 2006."



"There is no shortcut in life. You have to take it one step at a time and work hard. And you have to give back.



“Life is not a spectator sport. If you’re going to spend your whole life in the grandstand just watching what goes on, in my opinion you’re wasting your life.”



"If you have a chance to accomplish something that will make things better for people coming behind you, and you don't do that, you are wasting your time on this earth."

[SteveMitchell]

19th Century: Charles "Kid" Nichols (youngest man to reach 300 wins and all in the 19th century)

Dead Ball Era (1901-1920): Ty Cobb

Lively Ball Era (1921-1945): Babe Ruth

Post-War Era (1946-date): Willie Mays

[tedzan]

Babe Ruth

Jessie Owens

Wayne Gretzky, or Wilt Chamberlain (tough one to decide).

Walter Camp...."Father of American Football"....American Football was just a crude version of Rugby in the late 19th Century. At Yale Univ., Walter Camp developed the American game into what we know it is in the 20th and 21st Century.


TED Z
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