O/T Santana throws no hitter !!!!

[margoaepi]

Geez. For a bunch of guys that wax poetic about the glory days of baseball when there was no replay and pitchers finished their games regardless of pitch counts, you sure bring out the torches quickly. How many other no hitters and other accomplishments wouldn't count if we had the technology and scrutiny we have now? Don't think any of Ruth's home runs could have been on the wrong side of the foul pole? Don't think WaJo or Matty ever benefitted from a call? C'mon. The reason we love this game is because it is human and subject to interpretation and wouldn't work if it was any other way.

[ullmandds]

Josh...nicely stated!

[sox1903wschamp]

He still has a beast of a changeup.

[ibuysportsephemera]

Originally Posted by margoaepi

Geez. For a bunch of guys that wax poetic about the glory days of baseball when there was no replay and pitchers finished their games regardless of pitch counts, you sure bring out the torches quickly. How many other no hitters and other accomplishments wouldn't count if we had the technology and scrutiny we have now? Don't think any of Ruth's home runs could have been on the wrong side of the foul pole? Don't think WaJo or Matty ever benefitted from a call? C'mon. The reason we love this game is because it is human and subject to interpretation and wouldn't work if it was any other way.

+1...Exactly what I was thinking reading the negative comments.

[prewarsports]

Threads like this are WAAAAAAAY better than the literally endless T206 threads so I dont have a problem with them, if you dont want to read about it dont click on the clearly identified thread title

To the game.....

At least he didn't ruin history like the Umpire in the Galarraga perfect game. We take Umpires for granted, their job is incredibly tough and I am constantly amazed at how often they are right! Nobody will remember the "hit" over time but his name will be in history books forever and I dont have a problem with that either.

[pgellis]

Just explain to me how a five walk, no hit game is any better than a 1 hit, no walk , or 2 hit no walk game? Those happen every other week! Pitchers will issue walks on command instead of challenging good hitters. A 5 walk, no hitter doesn't mean much to me.

And no, I am not still bitter about 1986.............Johan was not on the 86 Mets.

[rc4157]

To me the bottom line is it was a "no hitter". You won't see too many headlines for a superbly pitched game with no walks, even if it is a great pitching performance. The no hitter will be recorded forever in the history books for future baseball fans to enjoy.
RC

[packs]

I don't understand the argument that a 1 or 2 hitter is more impressive than a no hitter. It seems like you'd have to just not like a guy.

[FrankWakefield]

When I've read about Mathewson pitching, sometimes he'd coast along and actually allow a hit or two. Sometimes he'd pitch around someone and let them walk, late in the game, with no one on, just to avoid letting the guy get a hit,or a double... I think even today, some pitchers don't get too torn up over a walk, because they're pitching all over the black of the plate and nowhere else. I recall some games John Tudor pitched, when he'd throw the ball everywhere other than down the middle. So Phil, that's one way why a no hitter with 5 walks can be better than a one hit no walk game.

I saw Mario Soto a pitch away from a no hitter in Cincy. He had a 1-0 lead in the 9th, 2 out, George Hendrick batting for the Cardinals. My recollection is that Soto quickly got 2 strikes on Silent George, then he threw up and in with Hendrick staggering back. He stepped back in, pushed his helmet down on his head, and stood with that back foot a bit past where the back of the batter's box used to be. Hendrick lined the next pitch down the left field line, barely over the fence, a clothes line shot. The air went out of the park. Reds got a run in the 9th for a 2-1 win, Soto got a complete game win and I think it was a 1 hitter...

[bosoxfan]

Originally Posted by margoaepi

Geez. For a bunch of guys that wax poetic about the glory days of baseball when there was no replay and pitchers finished their games regardless of pitch counts, you sure bring out the torches quickly. How many other no hitters and other accomplishments wouldn't count if we had the technology and scrutiny we have now? Don't think any of Ruth's home runs could have been on the wrong side of the foul pole? Don't think WaJo or Matty ever benefitted from a call? C'mon. The reason we love this game is because it is human and subject to interpretation and wouldn't work if it was any other way.

Couldn't agree more
For those who say it isn't a real no hitter, I believe you couldn't be more wrong.
I don't see anyone taking away the Royals championship in 1985 because of a bad call.

If anyone thinks there weren't controversial calls before TV than their just fooling themselves. Now add slow mo instant replay from many camara angles.

I'll go as far as to say that the umpires of today are better then any previous generation.

Congratulations to all Met fans. Gooden, Cone, Ryan, Seaver all pitched no no's after leaving the Mets. Now they have of their own.

[novakjr]

Interesting that Bob Ojeda's on the ticket.. As an Indians fan, I generally remember him for one thing..

Can anyone else spot the "unfortunate" choice of words on Bob's Wikipedia page...

"Ojeda is best remembered as an anchor in the 1986 World Series Champion New York Mets starting rotation, and for being the lone survivor of a March 22, 1993 boating accident that killed fellow Cleveland Indians pitchers Steve Olin and Tim Crews"

[barrysloate]

Anchor?

[Gary Dunaier]

06/07/2012 3:05 PM EST

Mets to sell tickets from Johan Santana's no-hitter

Fans Can Purchase Tickets From the Historic Game for $50 Each;
Season Ticket Holders to Receive Complimentary Reprints,
40-Game, 20-Game, 15-Game, and 6-Game Plan & Pack Holders to Receive Discounts;
No-Hitter Ticket Offer Starts This Monday, June 11 at 10:00 a.m. on Mets.com

The New York Mets today announced tickets from Johan Santana's no-hitter, the first in franchise history, will be reprinted for fans wishing to secure a pristine keepsake from the historic game. Fans can purchase tickets reprinted on Season Ticket Holder stock for $50 each, plus order and shipping fees. The tickets will be available starting Monday, June 11 at 10:00 a.m. on Mets.com.

Mets Season Ticket Holders will receive complimentary reprints of every seat in their account. An order and shipping fee will apply.

Mets 40-Game, 20-Game, 15-Game and 6-Game Plan and Pack Holders whose packages included the June 1 game will receive a discounted rate of $30 per ticket, plus per ticket and shipping fees.

Plan and Pack Holders whose packages didn't include last Friday's game, will be able to purchase reprints for $40 per ticket, plus per ticket and shipping fees, through an exclusive pre-sale on Mets.com starting tomorrow, Friday, June 8.

The Mets will reprint all 41,922 seats at Citi Field. There is a limit of four seats per order. Fans can select a seating category and receive the best available seat in that location.

Visit Mets.com for more information or call the Mets Ticket Office at (718) 507-TIXX.

Source: http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/news/art...r_nym&c_id=nym

[barrysloate]

Incredibly tacky, but it certainly doesn't surprise me. Anything that squeezes out a few more dollars....

[Gary Dunaier]

As a season ticket holder, I'll be getting reprinted tickets for free. However, in response to an e-mail inquiry I sent this morning asking how the reprints will be identified as such, my season ticket representative responded:

To my knowledge I do not believe there is any indication that they were reprinted and there is no difference from the originals.

Bad news, if this is true... especially for those who've already forked over as much as $500 in a couple of instances for tickets on the collectors' market. And the funny thing is that it will make the box office style tickets more valuable...


(image taken from Ebay)

...because they're not being reprinted. At least not in this format - the Mets intend to make every seat available, so if someone winds up getting a reprinted ticket for section 520, row 1, seat 9, it will be on "Season Ticket Holder" stock, which I presume to mean the design used on the season tickets, so the reprint of section 520, row 1, seat 9 will look like this...



...and will thus be distinguishable as a reprint.