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Old 05-18-2012, 09:32 AM
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In the 5 1/2 years since I first presented this theory of mine regarding the T206 Plank card, I have had no luck in digging up any more evidence that would in any
way support any contention between the American Caramel Co. and the American Tobacco Co. (ATC)....as I have hypothesized here.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=84132


HOWEVER, my research on this subject proves that Connie Mack and Eddie Plank were very anti-tobacco guys. Therefore, I would suggest that this may have
been a big factor that explains the T206 Plank mystery. I can imagine that Plank issued a "cease and desist" order to ATC to stop them from portraying his image
on their tobacco cards.

Note, that Connie Mack is not pictured on T-cards. Of course, the T208 Fireside set is an exception. This might be explained by the fact that the same printer
that produced the 1910 NADJA (E104-1) A's set also printed the 1911 Cullivan's Fireside A's set.


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Old 05-18-2012, 10:22 AM
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As Ted said Plank was noted in many period articles and by his fellow teammates as living a clean life. He never drank or used tobacco of any kind. I believe like Ted that this is the most plausible explanation for his not giving his permission to be in the T206 set.

Here's an article from 1911 about Plank.

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Old 05-18-2012, 11:46 AM
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In the 5 1/2 years since I first presented this theory of mine regarding the T206 Plank card, I have had no luck in digging up any more evidence that would in any
way support any contention between the American Caramel Co. and American Tobacco Co. (ATC)....as I have hypothesized here.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=84132


HOWEVER, my research on this subject proves that Connie Mack and Eddie Plank were very anti-tobacco guys. Therefore, I would suggest that this may have
been a big factor that explains the T206 Plank mystery. I can imagine that Plank issued a "cease and desist" order to ATC to stop them from portraying his image
on their tobacco cards.

Note, that Connie Mack is not pictured on T-cards. Of course, the T218 Fireside set is an exception. This might be explained by the fact that the same printer
that produced the 1910 NADJA (E104-1) A's set also printed the 1911 Cullivan's Fireside A's set.


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eddie plank don t appear in any other tobacco card set ?
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Old 05-18-2012, 11:51 AM
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Besides the T208 (Fireside) set, Plank is also in the T204 Ramly set.

Let's see if anyone else here will chime in with another T-card set that he is in.


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He's also in the T5 Pinkerton and T216 Kotton, Mino and Virginia Extra sets.
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T200 but not on the T222... team obligations on the T200?

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it is a lot of tobacco set for a guy who are anti tobacco....
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Has anyone done any research into the 2 prominent baseball photgraphers of the day, Carl Horner and Charles Conlon. Perhaps we're looking at this from the wrong side. Perhaps the photographers themselves were involved? Everyone discusses compensation for using the players likeness to the player, but what about compensation to the specific photographer for using their photograph?

Here are two links to the Honus Wagner T206 likeness, one from what appears to be Carl Horner and another from Charles Conlon.


http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/.../2005/699.html

http://www.mearsonlineauctions.com/L...4%22-349%2F975
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