1934 goudey uncut sheet including lajoie

[rainier2004]

Originally Posted by philliesphan

Isn't the distribution the key, though? Although one could reasonably speculate that the number of Lajoie's produced was the same as the number of 1934 high numbers, I think the distribution methodology makes it more likely that the # of surviving copies of the Lajoie are fewer.

I don't think the population report is necessarily a good indicator here, as a Lajoie in 1 is worth lots of money, whereas a high number in 1 is worth ~$20-

Value is also a poor indicator. Here are the facts: There are 106 graded 1933 Lajoie's between sgc and psa (I need it easy and kept it to 2 TPG's). There are between 130 and 210 graded copies of every 1934 high# (73-96). The Hoag has 144 copies, #94 rolfe 194 and #90 cuyler 184 graded copies (3 of the more expensive higher #'s) compared to 844 graded copies of #37 gehrig, THE most expensive card.

Id think the more expensive cards would have a higher percentage graded. This gets into Zachs post from the other day, but I wonder what percentage of Lajoies are graded. It seems that 50-60% of my high #'ed 1934 goudeys, and thats 2 sets plus some triples and quads, were slabbed, a higher percentage than numbers 1-72. My point is there are a lot more Lajoies than I thought and the price of the card poorly resembles its "rarity" (I know, another thread). Its "cool" factor is the primary force behind the price. I guess Im just behind the curve here...

[g_vezina_c55]

Originally Posted by rainier2004

Value is also a poor indicator. Here are the facts: There are 106 graded 1933 Lajoie's between sgc and psa (I need it easy and kept it to 2 TPG's). There are between 130 and 210 graded copies of every 1934 high# (73-96). The Hoag has 144 copies, #94 rolfe 194 and #90 cuyler 184 graded copies (3 of the more expensive higher #'s) compared to 844 graded copies of #37 gehrig, THE most expensive card.

Id think the more expensive cards would have a higher percentage graded. This gets into Zachs post from the other day, but I wonder what percentage of Lajoies are graded. It seems that 50-60% of my high #'ed 1934 goudeys, and thats 2 sets plus some triples and quads, were slabbed, a higher percentage than numbers 1-72. My point is there are a lot more Lajoies than I thought and the price of the card poorly resembles its "rarity" (I know, another thread). Its "cool" factor is the primary force behind the price. I guess Im just behind the curve here...

I think the lajoie card is rare than the other high number. Yes probably the same number was printed but not same number distributed. All high number 34 goudey was distributed in pack. I think many printed lajoie was never distributed and perhaps destroyed by goudey when all complaint customers where satisfied with her 33 lajoie

[Rob D.]

Population reports aside (even though in this case, they support what I'm about to say, which means you're supposed to use them, I guess), once I started searching in earnest to purchase a Goudey Lajoie, it became pretty clear to me that this famed "rarity" is pretty available. For many years the Lajoie was grouped with the T206 Wagner and Plank as the hobby's "big three." There's simply no comparison.

Obviously, when comparing the Lajoie with other 1933 Goudeys, it's tough. But if you want one -- especially a fairly high grade example -- and you have the money, you won't be waiting long. I think part of the allure of the card is the fact it supposedly was available only by writing the company. In my opinion, either a heck of a lot of people took pen to paper, or Goudey Lajoies were made available in ways we do not know about.

[g_vezina_c55]

[QUOTE=Rob D.;991807e. For many years the Lajoie was grouped with the T206 Wagner and Plank as the hobby's "big three." There's simply no comparison.

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What do you mean by no comparaison ??

[Matt]

Originally Posted by g_vezina_c55

What do you mean by no comparaison ?? At one time the lajoie was considered at the second rank in the big 3

Speaking for Rob - I believe his point was that there are approximately 60 copies in existence of the T206s and perhaps 150-200 Lajoie's, so while at one point they were thought to be of relatively similar rarity, they are not.

[g_vezina_c55]

Originally Posted by Matt

Speaking for Rob - I believe his point was that there are approximately 60 copies in existence of the T206s and perhaps 150-200 Lajoie's, so while at one point they were thought to be of relatively similar rarity, they are not.

Ok i understand. But for a guy who have money avalaible it is pretty easy to have a Plank or a Wagner too.... same thing than lajoie.

[Rob D.]

Originally Posted by g_vezina_c55

Ok i understand. But for a guy who have money avalaible it is pretty easy to have a Plank or a Wagner too.... same thing than lajoie.

You think that T206 Planks and Wagners are more available than Goudey Lajoies? KO.