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Old 05-03-2012, 09:40 PM
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Tim, I'm glad to hear you say this, but the proof's in the pudding. Rather than say you will participate and answer questions, simply do it.

We've had quite a few great T206 discussions where I know you and Jim had thoughts, and I waited to hear them....and waited....and nothing occurred. An example is the discussion about whether or not the recently numerically-graded Plank could have actually been anything other than hand-cut.

Again, as NIKE would say, JUST DO IT. Your published works on your website are great. Keep up the good work.
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Old 05-03-2012, 09:58 PM
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Tim, I'm glad to hear you say this, but the proof's in the pudding. Rather than say you will participate and answer questions, simply do it.

We've had quite a few great T206 discussions where I know you and Jim had thoughts, and I waited to hear them....and waited....and nothing occurred. An example is the discussion about whether or not the recently numerically-graded Plank could have actually been anything other than hand-cut.

Again, as NIKE would say, JUST DO IT. Your published works on your website are great. Keep up the good work.
Scott - The tone of your current post, and many before it, is EXACTLY why I do not post as much as I used to on this forum. I really enjoy discussing the nuances of this set with as many collectors as I can and I will continue to do so, it just won't be here with you.
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:10 PM
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Scott - The tone of your current post, and many before it, is EXACTLY why I do not post as much as I used to on this forum. I really enjoy discussing the nuances of this set with as many collectors as I can and I will continue to do so, it just won't be here with you.
Well, I'll go cry myself to sleep, knowing that young Tim won't be discussing nuances of the T206 set with me

And for anyone who gives a damn, which is probably about zero - back when you used to PM me, telling me how easy you are to talk with, and how much you love to share information, you beat around the bush on every single question I asked you. No, I never got a straight answer to anything - the so-called "nuances of this set" that you mention. Either you knew a helluva lot less than your groupies gave you credit for, or you were simply saving every thought you had for your website. I'll give you credit, and go with the latter.

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Old 05-04-2012, 12:15 AM
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As far as these players with Piedmont 350 backs, I've come across more Ewings than any of the other seven players (Schulte excluded).

Karger & Mullin are tied for second place.


Ted - Just out of curiosity, does the Mullin you've posted have a Piedmont 350 back? The reason I ask is because every Mullin Piedmont 350 I've seen has a distinguishing spot on the front of the card. Even the Mullin Piedmont 350 I traded with you back in 2009 had this spot.


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Old 05-04-2012, 04:54 AM
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The reason I ask is because every Mullin Piedmont 350 I've seen has a distinguishing spot on the front of the card.

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Jantz - Here's my Mullin Piedmont 350 for you to compare regarding the distinguishing spot.

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Old 05-04-2012, 05:54 AM
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As far as these players with Piedmont 350 backs, I've come across more Ewings than any of the other seven players (Schulte excluded).

Karger & Mullin are tied for second place.


Ted - Just out of curiosity, does the Mullin you've posted have a Piedmont 350 back? The reason I ask is because every Mullin Piedmont 350 I've seen has a distinguishing spot on the front of the card. Even the Mullin Piedmont 350 I traded with you back in 2009 had this spot.


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The Mullin in the gallery shown here is a PIEDMONT 150. The PIEDMONT 350 Mullin you traded me has a tiny spot above his left arm....is that the "distinguishing spot"
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Old 05-06-2012, 01:48 PM
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Ted - Just out of curiosity, does the Mullin you've posted have a Piedmont 350 back? The reason I ask is because every Mullin Piedmont 350 I've seen has a distinguishing spot on the front of the card. Even the Mullin Piedmont 350 I traded with you back in 2009 had this spot.

Jantz

My PIEDMONT 150 and SOVEREIGN 150 do not have this mark. But, as Jantz has noted, my PIEDMONT 350 does have a faint trace of this mark.

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Furthermore....currently, on ebay there is a Mullin with this same "printer's mark" which is quite distinct......

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-T206-So...-/150583220279


Is this just a random phenomena, or do only certain Mullin cards (with respect to their tobacco advertising back) exhibit this DOT ?

It would be interesting to see if a pattern exists....so, when you have a chance, check out your Mullin cards and tell us if your's has this printer's mark.

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I think we'll find that mark to be common to the P350s There are a lot of tiny differences that should eventually lead to a better idea of sheet layouts.

Of course, the one with the big key to plate layouts is the P150 Ted shows. The line across the back is from a big plate scratch that I've seen on a few P150's. I'm still trying to find enough scans to piece them together.

I think Ted has a green Cobb with the line as well.

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My PIEDMONT 150 and SOVEREIGN 150 do not have this mark. But, as Jantz has noted, my PIEDMONT 350 does have a faint trace of this mark.

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Furthermore....currently, on ebay there is a Mullin with this same "printer's mark" which is quite distinct......

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-T206-So...-/150583220279


Is this just a random phenomena, or do only certain Mullin cards (with respect to their tobacco advertising back) exhibit this DOT ?

It would be interesting to see if a pattern exists....so, when you have a chance, check out your Mullin cards and tell us if your's has this printer's mark.

Thanks

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I think we'll find that mark to be common to the P350s There are a lot of tiny differences that should eventually lead to a better idea of sheet layouts.

Of course, the one with the big key to plate layouts is the P150 Ted shows. The line across the back is from a big plate scratch that I've seen on a few P150's. I'm still trying to find enough scans to piece them together.

I think Ted has a green Cobb with the line as well.

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Steve

I don't think I have that green Cobb anymore. I will look thru my all-PIEDMONT set and see if I have any other P 150 cards with the "big plate scratch".

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Tim, I'm glad to hear you say this, but the proof's in the pudding. Rather than say you will participate and answer questions, simply do it.

We've had quite a few great T206 discussions where I know you and Jim had thoughts, and I waited to hear them....and waited....and nothing occurred. An example is the discussion about whether or not the recently numerically-graded Plank could have actually been anything other than hand-cut.

Again, as NIKE would say, JUST DO IT. Your published works on your website are great. Keep up the good work.
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Dan you have all of my contact information and I'm unaware of any questions you have asked me that I haven't been as truthful and forthcoming about as possible. Ask me a question and I will gladly answer it as best I can.
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Guys,

IMHO, this is one of the better technical discussion threads we've had in a while. Please don't turn it into another train-wreck over your personal quibbles with other board members. This behavior is quite tiresome. No one is obligated to participate in these discussions and no one is obligated to share information, so please be appreciative towards those that do participate and share.

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Guys,

IMHO, this is one of the better technical discussion threads we've had in a while. Please don't turn it into another train-wreck over your personal quibbles with other board members. This behavior is quite tiresome. No one is obligated to participate in these discussions and no one is obligated to share information, so please be appreciative towards those that do participate and share.

Thanks so much and best regards,
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