Reporting live from the Hunts Ted Williams auction

[Splinte1941]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

Leland's has two people there who really know what they are doing regarding autographs, Josh and Mike Hefner.
Does Hunt? (Delehanty?)

Richard, what is your opinion on my situation. Am I wrong here? I'd appreciate your input. Thanks.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by Splinte1941

Richard, what is your opinion on my situation. Am I wrong here? I'd appreciate your input. Thanks.

As someone who does not put his faith in TPA's I am not the right person to ask here but it does seem you are not being unreasonable.

[Splinte1941]

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[travrosty]

just because lelands has auto experts and hunts doesnt in your opinion, so what? you knew that going in.

You entered into a contract to buy a signed photo without a cert, then when you find out you cant get one from a company that you want one from, you make it hunts problem?

they didnt list a cert, so there is no guarantee for a cert. that's the way it works. doesnt mean it is a fake autograph. jsa gave a no opinion, not a fail. why are you acting like its fake? you bid so you should pay.

its what cheeses me off, and reminds me of a high priced boxing autograph that the buyer liked a lot, and said it looked good, paid for the item, and then when jsa and psa either gave a no opinion or a fail, wanted his money back from the seller, and when the seller stuck to his guns, the seller got sued, but thankfully won the case. just because the buyer couldnt get his favorite guys to give it a cert, does not make it the sellers problem.

the buyer could have gotten all the opinions he wanted AHEAD OF TIME, and asked anybody he wanted ahead of time. he didn't. that's his problem. both this boxing autograph i am referring to and this williams has not been proven a fake, but since the buyer is more interested in the cert than the autograph, the problems start and thats why the hobby has been going downhill since the tpa's started the "unless we give it a cert, it is not good" type nonsense, and the collectors fell for it.

[Splinte1941]

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[Splinte1941]

And just as an aside, its incredible some of the prices being realized for stuff that has been going unsold on eBay for years. Most of the massed produced Green Diamond stuff is going for ridiculous and unreasonable prices.

$1k for a single signed Bobby Brown baseball? They can't give these away anywhere else.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by Splinte1941

And just as an aside, its incredible some of the prices being realized for stuff that has been going unsold on eBay for years. Most of the massed produced Green Diamond stuff is going for ridiculous and unreasonable prices.

My guess would be that there are a lot of non-collectors in the crowd, with more money than sense.

[Splinte1941]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

My guess would be that there are a lot of non-collectors in the crowd, with more money than sense.

You're not kidding.

[scooter729]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

My guess would be that there are a lot of non-collectors in the crowd, with more money than sense.

They hyped this auction a lot in the local Boston media this week, so I think a lot of non-collectors showed up and it became a "gotta have something from the Williams auction" for the non-collectors. That's what drove up the prices on the low-end items, to $1K for a ball and $500 for an 11x14 photo.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by scooter729

They hyped this auction a lot in the local Boston media this week, so I think a lot of non-collectors showed up and it became a "gotta have something from the Williams auction" for the non-collectors. That's what drove up the prices on the low-end items, to $1K for a ball and $500 for an 11x14 photo.

Wait until those non-collectors try to sell that stuff, somewhere down the road.

[Splinte1941]

Originally Posted by scooter729

They hyped this auction a lot in the local Boston media this week, so I think a lot of non-collectors showed up and it became a "gotta have something from the Williams auction" for the non-collectors. That's what drove up the prices on the low-end items, to $1K for a ball and $500 for an 11x14 photo.

I live outside of Boston and this was really high profile. It's a shame a lot of collectors were edged out due to the hype.