Reporting live from the Hunts Ted Williams auction

[Splinte1941]

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[travrosty]

Originally Posted by Splinte1941

They're not getting paid until PSA has a look at it. I even asked the girl over the phone what they were saying and she said they were saying how rare it was. More BS from this business. Someone is supposed to call me back, but they'll probably end up relisting this live if I don't get a good explanation.

where in the description does it say jsa cert?

i dont get it. why does psa's approval all of the sudden mean its good again and that's the only way they are going to get paid? Where does it say you are only obligated to pay if just two people in the world give it the thumbs up? You bid on it as is and you should pay for it. I have sold stuff that jsa and psa did not like, but it was real so who cares unless you are only interested in the cert.

something tells me you just want the cert, you are cert shopping.

If an auction lists no cert, does that mean if psa and jsa fail it in the future, you are entitled to your money back? that's ridiculous. It's their opinion and if you didnt get their opinion beforehand, its not the auction houses problem. nobody should be subject to the whims of psa or jsa.

[Splinte1941]

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[travrosty]

Originally Posted by Splinte1941

No. I want a legitimate item you *******.

Am I supposed to take Dave Hunts word for it? Whos word am I supposed to take? If I wanted to resell it someday a cert would nice, wouldn't it genius? Now go back to doing whatever you were doing before I didn't ask for your 2 cents.

so you are cert shopping, good. a cert would be nice for resell? Hey, HUNT sold it to you without one. worked for them, didnt it?

you mentioned resell, which means you are only interested in the cert, not if it is real. if psa gives you a cert, you won't be mad at the auction house anymore or jsa either. that's the point. whether or not it is real doesnt really matter to you as long as jsa or psa issue a cert for it.


so if psa certs it and jsa won't, what does that tell you about the legitimacy of the item? NOTHING, because it is a split opinion. so if the two world's experts disagree, you only care about the one that certed it, because it is now real, but if psa wouldnt cert it and jsa would, then it would also be real, as long as one of them certs it, you will believe THAT person, because for the moment, he is giving you what you want. If it was the other way around, then that same person's opinion would be junk in your opinion, and the OTHER one would be gold. See how crazy it is?

[Splinte1941]

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[carrigansghost]

Now is it any wonder why I consigned all of my auto's to auction. Maybe it's a ploy to pick up auto'ed items for cheap by bashing everything on the market or everything out there is bad? Either way, I'm glad there is a seperate forum now.

Rawn

[murphusa]

$120,000 for a world series program scorecard

[HRBAKER]

If they had the info about JSA's refusal bf they went to print they should have put it in the description. If it is important enough to announce to the live bidders and they didn't have the info bf the catalogs went out then a note should have been made to share the same info with all phone bidders IMO.

Their announcement of such info IMO acknowledges that they consider it relevant to most bidders.

EDIT TO ADD: JSAs refusal to cert certainly doesn't mean that the item is no good.

[Splinte1941]

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[scooter729]

FWIW it's worth - the auction catalog states "Auction LOA from JSA". My guess is that it used to be on the website description and was removed when they got the add'l info from JSA.

They should have updated the website listing with this info, and informed anyone who had bid on it of this info.

And geez travrosty, seriously - do you have to yell at everyone who ever buys an autograph? You called me a moron the other day for admitting I'd bought some bad autographs years ago; it's people like you with your negative attitudes that make people stay away from the autograph forum. Now please stay over there and do NOT ruin another legitimate thread please!

[carrigansghost]

Thank you for keeping us updated, Scott.

Rawn

[yanks12025]

But travrosty does make a point dealing with passing one and failing another.

[Splinte1941]

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