Poll: Is this Cobb legit, or is it a "rotten peach"?

[Deertick]

PSA says fake. By "master forger", not sure how that explains the identical background spots.....

[travrosty]

jim,

how did you get that info, is it true?

the dots are in the same spots, and even a master forger can't copy a sig exactly like that. so if that is what psa said, i am dumbfounded, and it would be scary to think that psa couldn't tell a printed copy. If it looks exactly the same as Ron K's example, there would be no way to tell if it was executed by a master forger BY HAND, because it's the same form and the same signature. If they mean master forger in the terms of it being photoshopped and/or printed on a laser scanner/printer, then they should say that, not just master forger because it gives the impression someone sat down at a table with pen and ink and made a very exact copy.


In my mind, it can't be anything other than a reproduced copy by a printer. But that's me. I am going to ask Donovan again what the verdict is.

[mighty bombjack]

Originally Posted by travrosty

jim,

how did you get that info, is it true?

the dots are in the same spot, and even a master forger can't copy a sig exactly like that. so if that is what psa said, i am dumbfounded. In my mind, it can't be anything other than a reproduced copy by a printer.

He posted it in the thread in the BST

[travrosty]

thanks, I see that now, now i dont know what to think.

it cant be hand drawn, no way. not in my book.


Identical background spots is the dead giveaway for me.

[RichardSimon]

According to what Donovan told us -
PSA Discovers Master Forger!!!
Someone great enough to fool the entire world,,,except for one thing, the master forger is a Hewlett Packard printer and it did not fool some people on Net54.

ps. we should all quit the autograph business now, there is a master forger on the loose,,, A MASTER. Us mere mortals have no chance.

[travrosty]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

According to what Donovan told us -
PSA Discovers Master Forger!!!
Someone great enough to fool the entire world,,,except for one thing, the master forger is a Hewlett Packard printer and it did not fool some people on Net54.

ps. we should all quit the autograph business now, there is a master forger on the loose,,, A MASTER. Us mere mortals have no chance.

Richard, I found that peculiar too, ,that psa would use the word MASTER forger, (correction, not psa's words, donavon used the word amazing forger, with a very skilled hand, when relaying what psa said), it might be the only way to explain that they would get fooled is to create a MASTER (amazing) forger, for surely no one could blame them now that this Merlin the magician is out there, we are no match.

The steadiest hands in the world could not create an autograph that exact. Notice on the T in Ty, there is a segment near the top where the ink skips. This master forger would have to quickly make that top of the T to skip in the exact same spot.

He couldn't do it slow as the ink would show signs of pooling and it would be more thick in that spot where he stopped, and where he started again. It would look cruddy, slowly drawn and would be obvious. But that's not what we have, we have a quick skipping of the ink just like ron's example. how do you do that if you are copying it by hand? impossible. there are no differences to the human eye between the two and the human eye is very keen.

[RichardSimon]

Maybe Hewlett Packard, or some printer company, should view this as a great advertising opportunity. "We are selling the Master Forger, for only $99.99 you can have the same machine."
This is so much BS,,, did they really think that we would buy a story like this?
Donovan for educational purposes I would really like to have my hands on that piece for a good look. Do you think you would do that?
I would gladly pay all shipping charges involved and return it to you promptly.

Originally Posted by RichardSimon
According to what Donovan told us - PSA Discovers Master Forger!!!
Someone great enough to fool the entire world,,,except for one thing, the master forger is a Hewlett Packard printer and it did not fool some people on Net54.

ps. we should all quit the autograph business now, there is a master forger on the loose,,, A MASTER. Us mere mortals have no chance.

Originally Posted by travrosty

Richard, I found that peculiar too, ,that psa would use the word MASTER forger, it might be the only way to explain that they would get fooled is to create a MASTER forger, for surely no one could blame them now that this Merlin the magician is out there, we are no match.

You two keep referring to PSA calling this the work of a Master Forger, and you seem to be taking delight in denigrating their use of that term - but I've read both threads on this matter, and I didn't see where PSA used that term, or was reported to have used that term. Is there a 3rd thread, or did I miss something?