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Old 02-12-2012, 12:18 PM
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For decades, scammers have been trimming Topps (or insert another card manufacturer here) baseball cards in order to deceive the buyer into thinking they're getting a card that is of better condition than it actually is (was).

Topps intentionally sells a product with full knowledge that it will be corrupted. Topps is completely at fault as they are enabling the trimmer by continuing to sell their product.
Another bad analogy. With the Topps cards, a physical action must take place beyond Topps' control, before the deception...With BCCG, no other action is needed. Just straight to the deception.
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Old 02-12-2012, 12:26 PM
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Another bad analogy. With the Topps cards, a physical action must take place beyond Topps' control, before the deception...With BCCG, no other action is needed. Just straight to the deception.
Umm, no. Great analogy. Failure by someone to comprehend. Your statement was, "Many sellers have the intent to deceive with these, and ultimately the fault lies with the uninformed buyers. But without this service, sellers wouldn't have this outlet for deception." So yes, there is an action - it's the sellers listing the cards with deceptive titles and/or descriptions. The cards aren't selling themselves are they?
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Old 02-12-2012, 12:46 PM
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At worst they offer a product that presents bad sellers a "graded" opportunity to mislead non-savvy buyers. No doubt that was not their intention and Leon's point about the genie is well taken. It probably in hindsight wasn't a good decision to go with the unique numbering system based on the way it has played out. What sellers do with the cards after they are graded is on the sellers though.

Again do your homework and don't count on any seller doing it for you. I for one don't stop for a second to look at any BCCG graded card becuase I immediately question the motives of anyone that gets cards graded by them. Again not the grader, the seller.

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Old 02-12-2012, 06:54 PM
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As a "raw" guy, maybe my opinion is worthless, but how a company was able to create a logic where cards with the same numerical grade are of completely different qualities is beyond me.

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