Pot Of Gold Estate Auctions Babe Ruth Cy Young

[Wymers Auction]

Why do they always go for so many Ruth signatures? If I wanted people to believe in my stuff I would not want six Ruth autos at $10 a piece.

[GrayGhost]

As Sir Elton John said in one of his classics:

" Its sad, so sad, its a sad sad situation"...But, in the case of Poopy, Drew Muck, Moorales, Scat Authentic and others, Sorry doesn't seem to be the hardest word. Just give me your money, and I'll give you a COA

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Wymers Auction

Why do they always go for so many Ruth signatures? If I wanted people to believe in my stuff I would not want six Ruth autos at $10 a piece.

Amazing isn't it. Look at Roach's Corner this month. Sixteen (16) various Babe Ruth autographs.

http://www.myccsa.com/Search.aspx?Se...xt=babe%20ruth

[RichardSimon]

I am surprised that they don't just advertise a private signing with the Babe and you can send in whatever you want signed, Bobby Brown AL balls, 1999 lithos, 1961 Golden Press Babe Ruth card,,, imagine the thrill of getting those signed,,, the boys at CC can do it for you!!

[travrosty]

there are two kinds of babe ruth forgeries, one is just a higher class of forgeries, they go one way to the abc, xyz and get certed and sell for 30,000 t0 100,000 dollars each, and trade in the legitimate market, including the largest online auction place, and the sloppier ones go to other places to get certs and sell for 500 to 2000 dollars and trade on the flea market circuit.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by travrosty

there are two kinds of babe ruth forgeries, one is just a higher class of forgeries, they go one way to the abc, xyz and get certed and sell for 30,000 t0 100,000 dollars each, and trade in the legitimate market, including the largest online auction place, and the sloppier ones go to other places to get certs and sell for 500 to 2000 dollars and trade on the flea market circuit.

Not necessarily so.
I just got four baseballs to examine yesterday. I won't reveal any details about the balls as the client will be attempting to get his money back, but he had spent $35,000 on the four balls. All with nice shiny (not PSA or JSA) stickers on them.

[travrosty]

theres always exceptions, but it is largely so.

we just saw cc sell a cy young signed ball for 257, a babe ruth/lou gehrig signed ball for 957.

meanwhile, higher class forgeries sell with abc, xyz for 25k, 40k, 50k, 100k and more each. and these with the abc, xyz certs will continue trade and sell back and forth forever. people can try to get their money back for a joe blow cert, but who is it out there that has an abc, xyz ruth ball that is trying to get a refund and is going to succeed? no one right now, because no one will take on those companies. so the customer dropped 80 grand on a ball with abc, xyz and are going to be stuck unless they try to pass it on even though they found out its fake. (perpetuate the problem)

when you get people who think they might have fakes, are they ever abc or xyz? because if not, then either those two companies dont ever make a mistake (ha), OR they make them but never get pushed for a refund, nor the dealer that sold them.

who can push for a refund on a abc or xyz cert? no one can, that's the problem. because the dealer can always say that this is abc, xyz, not joe blow certs, so shove off. they couldnt even get delahanty pulled from the auction even though it was obvious.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Travis loves to talk numbers, so let's talk numbers.

You see, Travis uses a different calculator than we do. Travis, what about the hundreds (or thousands) of Babe Ruth garbage autographs that Chris Morales, Drew Max and Ted Taylor have certed over the years. I guess those dollars don't count.

What about the hundreds of Lou Gehrig garbage autographs that Chris Morales, Drew Max and Ted Taylor have certed over the years. I guess those dollars don't count.

What about the thousands of autographed photos (including Ali, Mantle, Mays, DiMaggio, Ted Williams) certed by Max, Morales and Taylor that were sold by an auction site for over two years. I guess those dollars don't count.

This month (Feb 2012) alone Coach's Corner listed sixteen (16) Babe Ruth autographs. Four are certed by Morales and five by Taylor. And that's just this month. But I guess those dollars are irrelevant, Travis.

What about the 100 or so Christy Mathewson cut sigs and baseballs that Morales has certed for Coach's Corner.

This month over at Coach's Corner there are three Christy Mathewson cut sigs list. All certed by Morales. But I guess those dollars are irrelevant, too, Travis.

http://www.myccsa.com/Lot.aspx?LotID=311081

http://www.myccsa.com/Lot.aspx?LotID=307861

http://www.myccsa.com/Lot.aspx?LotID=308965

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Now let's talk real dollars. The majority of those Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Christy Mathewson, Walter Johnson, etc., are sold to retailers, who then sell that crap for 5-20 times their purchase price to impulse buyers.

I guess those dollars are irrelevant, right, Travis?