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Old 01-22-2012, 07:21 AM
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Thank you gentlemen but I'm just telling it like it is. Travis likes to harp on dollar amounts, but what most people don't know is that the majority of crap that is sold on the Coach's Corner auction site every month, actually ends up in retail stores in Las Vegas, California, Florida and in retail stores on cruise ships and sold to impulse buyers who are impressed when the COA reads "Forensic Investigator" or "FDE." So those pieces-of-crap that sell for between $400 & $2,000 on the Coach's Corner auction site, usually end up being sold to an impulse buyer for anywhere between 5-20 times the purchase price. And how many thousands of times has that occurred!!!!

Impulse buyers are also impressed by the fact that Chris Morales likes to state on his resume' that he is "Court-Approved." I once wrote "And don't be impressed by his "Court Approved/Qualified" title. If someone wanted Santa Claus to testify about autographs on their behalf and the judge ruled Santa Claus could testify or give a deposition, then Santa Claus is "Court Approved."

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Old 01-24-2012, 07:15 PM
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How about all of that crap that was sold by Jerry Gladstone (American Royal Arts) certed by Chris Morales, Forensic Investigator!!! Beatles signed guitars, Beatles signed album covers, etc., etc. Millions$$$$!!!! If you want to talk about dollars, there you go.

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I go after what i see as the problem, you go after what you see as the problem. i dont care if they differ. go after them, good, it doesnt bother me.

about 6 years ago i put a bid on ebay for a mike tyson signed vintage 8 x 10 black and white photo, signed while mike was champion. superb piece, got it for 59 dollars, was very happy I didn't get sniped at the very end. It had a cert from one of your FDE buddies, frank garo, william tell research. Was I not suppose to buy it?

sold it a couple of years later for 150 bucks with (gasp) no psa or jsa cert that would have just set me back another 75 bucks with no extra bump in the final selling price, provided they would have even passed the photo at all.

You are going after the guys selling speakers out of the back of their van in the parking lot. I am going after the respected big box retailer who sells the speakers in the store, but can't seem to keep non-defective speakers in stock.

A vast majority of the people know to avoid the parking lot guy, while they all expect the big box retailer to carry a quality product.
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I think if everyone on both sides of the FDE/abc debate would truly adopt this mindset, we'd have a lot less bickering on the boards. The war against fraud and neglect in this hobby has many fronts. You don't have to fight on all of them in order to be anti-corruption.
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I think if everyone on both sides of the FDE/abc debate would truly adopt this mindset, we'd have a lot less bickering on the boards. The war against fraud and neglect in this hobby has many fronts. [B][B]You don't have to fight on all of them in order to be anti-corruption.
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That's exactly right. I wish all would adopt this mindset. Together we can fix the abc/xyz problem and the other problems.

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How about all of that crap that was sold by Jerry Gladstone (American Royal Arts) certed by Chris Morales, Forensic Investigator!!! Beatles signed guitars, Beatles signed album covers, etc., etc. Millions$$$$!!!! If you want to talk about dollars, there you go.

How many gallery stores did Gladstone own? Several if I remember correctly.
He sold an awful lot of rock n roll stuff and I think Morales authenticated much if not all of it.
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