Ok I have seen enough JOEY FARINO board member

[DJR]

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[Jay Wolt]

I thought deadbeat buyers on eBay were given 3 strikes before they were booted.
Isn't that the case anymore?

[danmckee]

[Taxman]

Dan, Be strong.....Ive been receiving the same emails ever since I outed Joey over on the SGC and PSA boards. This Hobby doesnt need the likes of him and his alts.

[novakjr]

Honest question here...Does he seem to be a guy that's just in over his head in the hobby? Or is he just scatter-brained and indecisive?

[wonkaticket]

Wow not cool! Dan sorry that will teach you to be nice.

Cheers,

John

[celoknob]

"I thought deadbeat buyers on eBay were given 3 strikes before they were booted.
Isn't that the case anymore? "

It sure doesn't seem that way. What's more, I've seen people with less than 50 total feedback that have 20 retracted bids in one year.

Unlike some others, I did not really have a problem when ebay got rid of leaving buyer feedback. But that action should have backed that up with very strong and enforceable sanctions against non-paying bidders and chronic "bid retracters". It seems to me they have done the opposite and these kind of guys never go away. Often they end up screwing up auctions, whether you are involved buying or selling.

[Leon]

It is too difficult to identify someone virtually, many times. I have information leading me to believe we have a rat in the house with the whole SAM1952/JoeyF situation. I have suspended both of them from this board pending both of them sending me proof that they are who they are. I have asked for fronts and backs of their licenses OR some other hard copy proof. Once both satisfy me (I am a pushover) that they are in fact different people, then after a few more questions to Joey about this buying habits issue, all will be good and they can come back. As I told someone yesterday, I am rather protective of this board. best regards

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Leon

It is too difficult to identify someone virtually, many times. I have information leading me to believe we have a rat in the house with the whole SAM1952/JoeyF situation. I have suspended both of them from this board pending both of them sending me proof that they are who they are. I have asked for fronts and backs of their licenses OR some other hard copy proof. Once both satisfy me (I am a pushover) that they are in fact different people, then after a few more questions to Joey about this buying habits issue, all will be good and they can come back. As I told someone yesterday, I am rather protective of this board. best regards

I don’t think that JoeyF and Sam1952 are one in the same. Sam1952 has only posted in one thread about a 1939 Play Ball Ted Williams card that he bought. Sam1952’s eBay username is jasonchicas and he is registered in California. If you do search and look at his feedback, you can see where he bought the Williams from Probstein in late October.

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...ab=AllFeedback

JoeyF however is from Washington. I realize that your location can be manipulated, but I don't think either is smart enough to figure that out.

[sportscardpete]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

I don’t think that JoeyF and Sam1952 are one in the same. Sam1952 has only posted in one thread about a 1939 Play Ball Ted Williams card that he bought. Sam1952’s eBay username is jasonchicas and he is registered in California. If you do search and look at his feedback, you can see where he bought the Williams from Probstein in late October.

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...ab=AllFeedback

JoeyF however is from Washington. I realize that your location can be manipulated, but I don't think either is smart enough to figure that out.

They could be friends though.

[Taxman]

Originally Posted by sportscardpete

They could be friends though.

OR Family members, members of the same tribe, members of the same gang, or just people out to scam someone....While they were members of the PSA board they frequently posted in the same thread about cards they had bought.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

I don’t think that JoeyF and Sam1952 are one in the same. Sam1952 has only posted in one thread about a 1939 Play Ball Ted Williams card that he bought. Sam1952’s eBay username is jasonchicas and he is registered in California. If you do search and look at his feedback, you can see where he bought the Williams from Probstein in late October.

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...ab=AllFeedback

JoeyF however is from Washington. I realize that your location can be manipulated, but I don't think either is smart enough to figure that out.

As I told both of them, as soon as they prove who they really are, they will be back on the board. They might not be different people. This is only a permanent suspension if they choose it to be. I think that is pretty fair, no? If someone asked me to prove who I am because they had concerns I was someone else, I would prove it in 2 minutes, and move on. It's just that simple.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by sportscardpete

They could be friends though.

So what if they are? You can't be friends with anybody on the message boards? They're not accused of being friends. They're accused of being the same person, which I really don't believe they are.

Originally Posted by Taxman

While they were members of the PSA board they frequently posted in the same thread about cards they had bought.

So what? What's wrong with frequently posting in the same thread about cards we buy? We do it all the time in the monthly pick-up threads. Does that mean we are all alts? What proof do you have other than they post in the same thread?

Sorry, Leon, but I don’t understand how your idea of scanning the drivers licenses will prove anything. Let’s just say for a minute that you are right and they are one in the same. Let’s also say that Joey produces the proof that you are asking for, but Sam1952 can’t. Are you going to let Joey back on the board and not Sam1952? If they really are one in the same and you let the one who complied back on the board and not the other, then what did you really resolve?

In other words, you banned them because you thought they were one in the same. If they really are one in the same and you let one on and not the other, what have you accomplished? The only way your idea would work is if they both complied or if they both ignored you. Then you could either reinstate both or leave both banned. I just fail to see how your idea works.

You guys are being ridiculous! Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to excuse Joey's behavior and the fact that he stiffed Dan (and others). IMO, he should be banned for that alone. However, to accuse two people of being one in the same w/o any proof is pretty irresponsible.

[Taxman]

Now he is posting again on the SGC Board.

[ullmandds]

If ebay hadn't purchased paypal a few years ago...they'd be in trouble with all of the lame-ass changes they've made in the last few years...it really is hurting their auction business...and it sucks to be a seller sometimes!

[YankeeCollector]

Originally Posted by DJR

I feel bad for Joey on many levels but when it starts affecting others, it bothers me and wish he would go away quietly.

I added Joey's eBay ID italianz31 to my blocked bidder list months ago and would suggest everyone to follow my lead.

I will post below a sampling of items Joey recently 'purchased' on eBay, then reneged, and were subsequently relisted.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=160708333780
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=160712527866

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=380367680428
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=380401328921

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=160683291027
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=400269710026

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=280775667600
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=280803939033

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=320827515549
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=320829876663

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=220929877671
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=320829862663

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=200687850986
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=200690324338

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=300641950721
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=300645768685

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=300639393577
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=300641390086

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=390377940573
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=390382204907

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=170658110000
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=170757234065

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=190621902382
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=190624853490

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=140545732752
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=380399914035

Maybe I'm just naive but how do you know he bid on this stuff when Ids are blocked? Why do buyers have "private feedback"?

[Sean1125]

Buyers who ONLY make purchases can set their feedback to private so that it cannot be viewed.

[YankeeCollector]

Originally Posted by Sean1125

Buyers who ONLY make purchases can set their feedback to private so that it cannot be viewed.

Why dont they want their feedback viewed if they cannot receive negative feedback anymore?

[mdschulze]

Leon runs this board and he can manage it how he sees fit and solely on his opinion and discretion alone. Anyone who disagrees with his management style can always take a walk or just close their eyes!

[Fred]

Perhaps we all need to refresh ourselves with the fact that the part of the drill sergeant in Full Metal Jacket was based on our fearless moderator/leader (Leon):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peRA2...eature=related


I just love that piece. Ok, Leon's not quite that bad...

[CW]

I don't have the time to go back and find the specific threads, but joeyf/blackitalian and sam1952 were also suspected of being the same person on the CU forums. Similar posting styles, lack of capitalization, and same types of questions about cards. This isn't the first forum in which joeyf and sam1952 were accused of being one in the same.

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by mdschulze

leon runs this board and he can manage it how he sees fit and solely on his opinion and discretion alone. Anyone who disagrees with his management style can always take a walk or just close their eyes!

+1000 :d

[batsballsbases]

Originally Posted by mdschulze

Leon runs this board and he can manage it how he sees fit and solely on his opinion and discretion alone. Anyone who disagrees with his management style can always take a walk or just close their eyes!

Mike,
Didnt you know Leon has been on Double Secret Probation the last 6 months. I have it on good athority that the other moderators are just waiting in the wings to take this baby (net54) public and make millions. Dont worry Dan I wont tell anybody!

[sycks22]

I also like how most people on here have eachothers backs. If one person gets screwed then it's out like wildfire. Now if only people would start collecting T206 cards then this site would be better.

[alanu]

Originally Posted by YankeeCollector

Why dont they want their feedback viewed if they cannot receive negative feedback anymore?

They probably don't want people to see what they are purchasing and for how much.

[batsballsbases]

Originally Posted by YankeeCollector

Why dont they want their feedback viewed if they cannot receive negative feedback anymore?

Jim,
Yes you cant get negative feedback but also even thou you cant give it a seller can still type a message I.E. Bad buyer took 2 months to pay! Many emails and excuses finally paid after filed a grievence with ebay. That sort of thing. People will still see that and decide for themselves.