Opinions on ebay item return

[pgellis]

How much was the card? The reason for asking is if you sold him a $50 card, is that going to help that much if he truly did lose his job?

[barrysloate]

Dan- why did you originally put him on your blocked bidder list? Does it relate at all to why he returned this card?

[danmckee]

$650 and it seems he has a track record with multiple excuses each time. Thanks to the messages I have received!

Ugh! just my luck!

I seem to be a loser magnet par usual!!

[Taxman]

JoeyF aka italianz31 did the same thing to me over a sale. His excuse was his grandmother had died and his girlfriend was pregnant. Prior to being banned on the PSA board he pulled the same thing on another member. JoeyF and his alts Sam1952, Joey, Mantlefan81, jboog are trouble.


Kirk

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Taxman

JoeyF aka italianz31 did the same thing to me over a sale. His excuse was his grandmother had died and his girlfriend was pregnant. Prior to being banned on the PSA board he pulled the same thing on another member. JoeyF and his alts Sam1952, Joey, Mantlefan81, jboog are trouble.


Kirk

And the plot thickens. There have actually been some alleged harmful threats made by this person too, to another board member....which are right now, being looked into. Not good....

[Taxman]

Leon,

Prior to Joey being banned on the PSA board he stated numerous threats to members from going to their house, to slapping them. All of his posts contained numerous expletives and threats. He is drama no matter which board he post. Here is a link to the SGC board where he created an alt and was caught.

http://www.sgccard.com/boards/ubbthr...=1#Post2004307

Kirk K

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Taxman

JoeyF aka italianz31 did the same thing to me over a sale. His excuse was his grandmother had died and his girlfriend was pregnant. Prior to being banned on the PSA board he pulled the same thing on another member. JoeyF and his alts Sam1952, Joey, Mantlefan81, jboog are trouble.


Kirk

I just had a long talk with JoeyF on the phone. Did you post this guys contact info on the PSA board? He is saying that ALL is good right now between ya'll, is this true? According to Joey, you are the issue and have been harassing him? Joey admits to the different ID's on different venues but is NOT Sam1952, which is my biggest issue right now. SAM1952 and I need to have a conversation.

According to JoeyF, he has had some issues, made some mistakes, but never has scammed or ripped anyone off or made any threats....which are all big issues in my book, if they were done.

[Taxman]

I posted a picture from his facebook account on the PSA board after he continued to make personal threats against me and others. Its true a picture says a thousand words especially in this case and explains the gang lingo in his post. I deleted it after a few board members said that was crossing the line. Although I only posted it after Joey threatened to come to "my house and take a dump on my front porch". Obviously, from this thread and others I am not the only person Joey has threatened.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Taxman

I posted a picture from his facebook account on the PSA board after he continued to make personal threats against me and others. Its true a picture says a thousand words especially in this case and explains the gang lingo in his post. I deleted it after a few board members said that was crossing the line. Although I only posted it after Joey threatened to come to "my house and take a dump on my front porch". Obviously, from this thread and others I am not the only person Joey has threatened.

Ok, my final conclusion (as of now) on this particular situation is......I don't think pooping on someone's porch is cause for the FBI to get involved or even someone to feel threatened, necessarily. If anyone poops on my front porch I will let my miniature beagle take care of them...that'll teach them. I don't think Joey is a bad guy but, according to him too, has made some mistakes. I have not seen where he has scammed, ripped off, or seriously threatened anyone on this board. I am willing to start with a clean slate on JoeyF. Also, for the record, if someone backs out of 1-2 deals, communicates well and is apologetic and doesn't rip anyone off, then to me, that is life and it happens. If it happens much more than that, in a short time period, then that person probably shouldn't be on our BST.

On the other hand, this SAM1952, is a person that I do believe has allegedly made very serious threats to another board member and that will not be tolerated at all. From my records, right now, I don't think JoeyF and Sam1952 are the same person. I will always work with the authorities and members to help in those instances.

[JoeyF]

Originally Posted by Leon

Ok, my final conclusion (as of now) on this particular situation is......I don't think pooping on someone's porch is cause for the FBI to get involved or even someone to feel threatened, necessarily. If anyone poops on my front porch I will let my miniature beagle take care of them...that'll teach them. I don't think Joey is a bad guy but, according to him too, has made some mistakes. I have not seen where he has scammed, ripped off, or seriously threatened anyone on this board. I am willing to start with a clean slate on JoeyF. Also, for the record, if someone backs out of 1-2 deals, communicates well and is apologetic and doesn't rip anyone off, then to me, that is life and it happens. If it happens much more than that, in a short time period, then that person probably shouldn't be on our BST.

On the other hand, this SAM1952, is a person that I do believe has allegedly made very serious threats to another board member and that will not be tolerated at all. From my records, right now, I don't think JoeyF and Sam1952 are the same person. I will always work with the authorities and members to help in those instances.

i appreciate it Leon. I was in contact with chris thomas from collectors universe to check ip addresses between me and this sam1952 guy. he told me he could do that would get back to me. Ive emailed him a couple days ago but have not heard a response from him. Any type of terrorist threat deserves some kind of action and I hope your able to contact him regarding his issues. Just for the record I ALWAYS deliver the cards I sell and ALWAYS provide tracking # info and will continue to be a straight up seller on every transaction

[JoeyF]

Originally Posted by Taxman

I posted a picture from his facebook account on the PSA board after he continued to make personal threats against me and others. Its true a picture says a thousand words especially in this case and explains the gang lingo in his post. I deleted it after a few board members said that was crossing the line. Although I only posted it after Joey threatened to come to "my house and take a dump on my front porch". Obviously, from this thread and others I am not the only person Joey has threatened.

Excuse me?? Gang lingo?? I am in no way part of a gang or have any affiliation with a gang. Im a hard working ADULT just like the majority of people on this forum. Mrmint why dont you address the fact that you did the following: Googled my address including looking at pictures of it on google earth, constantly disrespected my dead grandmother, posted a picture of me, posted my parents names on psa, threatened me, tried to investigate my grandmothers death. Did I or did I not sell you a 54 bowman ted williams and 65 topps joe namath? Did I or did I not sell them to you for a good price and then you later posted them for sale on ebay??? Why dont you address the fact that you constantly harass me and post my personal info all over the threads. That in my book deserves forum removal.

[danmckee]

Not me Leon, i haven't posted any personal information anywhere including here about him. Dan.

[Leon]

Yikes, Dan just sent me a PM of who this is. It is a fairly new board member that I have been scratching my head over anyway. Not sure what I can say but this is not unexpected given what I have seen. And I just received another message that is not looking good for this person, at all. After I investigate a bit more I will have some more updates....This is NOT an isolated incident.

[danmckee]

Yes I am feeling like a real stooge right now!!!

I am glad I posted, maybe I will save some future good folk from this bogus buyer.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by danmckee

Yes I am feeling like a real stooge right now!!!

I am glad I posted, maybe I will save some future good folk from this bogus buyer.

Yes Dan...it is ALWAYS good to post these issues. Many times, as we have all seen, these people mean well but get into hot water and then everything falls apart for them. Multiple returns, crazy excuses etc...etc.... They just can't help themselves and then it unravels because they have been outed, as you are doing. As I say, I will do a bit more detective work and then make a decision on membership etc....certainly this person's BST privileges, at a minimum, are in jeopardy. This is the not-so-fun side of our hobby/addiction. best regards

[Mikehealer]

Originally Posted by pgellis

How much was the card? The reason for asking is if you sold him a $50 card, is that going to help that much if he truly did lose his job?

$50 can buy a lot of beans.

[sportscardpete]

Thanks for giving everyone a heads up Dan!

Is he the guy that always posted threads asking how much an item should go for?

[danmckee]

Not sure if that is him but he has a recent post from yesterday asking about dealing with B&E. Should be about 10 threads down from this one, Dan.