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Old 01-09-2012, 06:59 AM
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I still have not figured this one out. I have researched my tail off... One of the most time consuming / fun / aggravating / informational projects I have dealt with. And still no answers...
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Old 01-09-2012, 11:22 AM
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1999???
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Old 01-09-2012, 12:22 PM
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Hi Ken,

"1999"? I know... I just cannot help but feel that there is a great story hidden within this photo. I & others have all kinds of ideas, but have not been able to corroborate any of them.

The best I can do is I have found a match on the Policeman's belt buckle "CCP". I have found a photo of a Cook County Police or Chicago City Police officer with a very similar uniform and a match on the buckle.

Now though, I have begun to wonder if it has anything to do with Illinois and the "CCP" for some other state...?
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Old 01-09-2012, 12:28 PM
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My guess is they were playing a baseball game in the year 1999. I guess they thought in 100 years baseball would be played between men with guns and the umpire would have to be a cop.
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Old 01-09-2012, 12:52 PM
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Default I Even... Gun Collectors...

I even went as far as signing up on a Gun Collectors forum and asked if they could provide any info on the guns. (Hoping for some sort of clue?) They were very helpful but it led down a dead end road.

Interestingly, those guys were intrigued by the (guy with sign) buttoned up pants leg. Debating whether or not a drive chain could be on the left or right side of a motorcycle or bicycle.

One fellow stated the he thought the photo was taken at West Side Park in 1899??? I cannot find any pictures of West Side that match...

You can see his pants leg and the Cycles in the bottom photo.

Here is a photo of the gun!

That appears to be a Stevens Tip Up. Also known as a "pocket rifle".
They had removable shoulder stocks, so they could be used as a rifle or a pistol.
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I still have not figured this one out. I have researched my tail off... One of the most time consuming / fun / aggravating / informational projects I have dealt with. And still no answers...
I'm pretty sure the big guy is the penguin from all Batman movies. I could be wrong
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Old 01-09-2012, 02:43 PM
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Default 4 aces of the 1905 American League Champions

.................... BENDER ................. PLANK ................ COAKLEY

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............................................... WADDELL


Between them they won 87 games and lost only 40 for Connie Mack.


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Old 01-10-2012, 10:37 AM
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1886 Kansas City Cowboy's National League player. Not identified on the card but believed to be Pete Conway.

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Other know Conway photos:

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Old 01-10-2012, 11:29 AM
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That is Conway - nice find.
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Default Judge Landis

Here is Kenesaw Mountain Landis holding Zach Wheats children.
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Old 01-10-2012, 06:58 PM
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Rob, nice cabinet! If Pete Conway, which I believe it is, it dates to just before he was picked up by Detroit (8/5/1886). The comparison portrait you show of Pete with Detroit would date to either late 1886 or just before the start of 1887 season and was taken by Tomlinson Studio. I've never seen the full portrait you've posted, only the oval cutout found on the 1887 team's "Champions of the League" composite (attached below). Could you point me to the source for the full Conway portrait with Detroit? Thank You.
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Great photo, Kenny.
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.................... BENDER ................. PLANK ................ COAKLEY

[linked image]

............................................... WADDELL


Between them they won 87 games and lost only 40 for Connie Mack.


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What cabinet is that from great image.
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Hey Joe - Believe it or not, that bust shot of Pete Conway is from his Wiki web page.

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Old 01-10-2012, 11:15 PM
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Thank you Rob, I was surprised to see that portrait and even more surprised to learn of Rich Adler's book on U of M baseball. Some real neat information in the first couple chapters (see page 25).

http://books.google.com/books?id=68f...ler%22&f=false

A copy of the book is now on its way to me. Thank You !
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