Please help, fake or real Babe Ruth

[HistoricNewspapers]

What was the shape of the candy inside?

Would there be creases in a similar spot if they were all folded around the same candy?

Or were these non used wrappers that were found flat and just worn heavily?

[Bugsy]

Another damaged H.

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Lot...archvalue=ruth bar&page=0&sortby=0&displayby=2&lotsperpage=50&category=1&seo=1928-Babe-Ruth-%22Ruth

[7nohitter]

good catch

[steve B]

The fonts are also slightly different. On one the crossbar of the Hs in most of the words are in the center, while the other verion the crossbars are near the top of the letter.

Steve B

[smulvihill]

2 more from heritage auctions

http://historical.ha.com/c/item.zx?s...083&lotNo=3133

http://sports.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleN...28&lotNo=43164

[Bugsy]

Originally Posted by Bugsy

Another damaged H.

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Lot...archvalue=ruth bar&page=0&sortby=0&displayby=2&lotsperpage=50&category=1&seo=1928-Babe-Ruth-%22Ruth

Interesting that this was withdrawn.

[bjcunningham]

Does Leon's wrapper have a - "baseball." - at the end of the sentence, but the other's don't? Or is that just the scans? Just curious.

[PhilNap]

With the two wrappers in the current SCP auction (one with the all too common obscured middle initial "H" and one with the "H" intact), it has caused me to look even closer at these wrappers.

It seems that all of the wrappers with the obscured "H" have a much sharper font style. I would describe it as more of a modern computer generated font. This is most pronounced in the text below the Babe's image where it reads "Babe Ruth's Own Candy". And upon closer look, it is evident in all of the text (both in the area with the orange background and in the white border). The wrappers with the "H" have more of a rounded hand drawn style of text. I don't know if this version has been reproduced but in my opinion the missing "H" and the sharper font are tell tale signs to stay away.

[Mr. Zipper]

Also note that in lot 754, the quote marks around Babe Ruth's (at top of label) are of different style and spacing relative to the letters. The same with the apostrophe.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper

Also note that in lot 754, the quote marks around Babe Ruth's (at top of label) are of different style and spacing relative to the letters. The same with the apostrophe.

That is interesting. If the wrapper is a reprint, there are two possibilities - either it is a scan/photo copy of an original, or someone created new artwork and layout and printed from that. With your discovery, either one of those possibilities seems to be a bit challenged. Because the quotation mark is different, it would seem impossible for it to be a photo copy, and it would indicate someone made a new layout and tried to make it as close to the real thing as possible. The challenge on that side is that the H is obscured, which wouldn't happen if someone was printing off of a fresh layout. That leaves two more likely possibilities in my mind - either there were two original layouts for the wrapper, or someone created a new layout recently and that layout was copied from a copy where the H was obscured.

[PhilNap]

Originally Posted by PhilNap

With the two wrappers in the current SCP auction (one with the all too common obscured middle initial "H" and one with the "H" intact), it has caused me to look even closer at these wrappers.

It seems that all of the wrappers with the obscured "H" have a much sharper font style. I would describe it as more of a modern computer generated font. This is most pronounced in the text below the Babe's image where it reads "Babe Ruth's Own Candy". And upon closer look, it is evident in all of the text (both in the area with the orange background and in the white border). The wrappers with the "H" have more of a rounded hand drawn style of text. I don't know if this version has been reproduced but in my opinion the missing "H" and the sharper font are tell tale signs to stay away.

It seems that people may be recognizing . . .

Prices Realized with BP:

Lot 752 - $1,355.00
Lot 744 - $290.00 (also included a 1934 Goudey wrapper)

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by PhilNap

It seems that people may be recognizing . . .

Prices Realized with BP:

Lot 752 - $1,355.00
Lot 744 - $290.00 (also included a 1934 Goudey wrapper)

Is it me, or is the circle around "Own Candy" different in these? There seems to be more space in the second one.

Ken
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