T206 Drum Red Cobb on Ebay tonight

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by sb1

The back has not been redrawn or color added, it simply had a piece of paper crud soaked off of it, probably from another card stuck to it.

I didn't realize that you had seen it. You can't tell from the scan, and we have multiple 'former' board members who have proven themselves capable of such alterations (or have access to such resources)...and PSA, GAI and SGC have all had such cards passed by them to end up in numbered slabs.

All I'm saying is, it's not unheard of for such a card to actually get by the graders and end up with a numbered flip, so you figure just about anything could end up in an 'AUTH'.

[sb1]

I have seen the before and after, that's all I need.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by sb1

I have seen the before and after, that's all I need.

I would only need to see the 'after', but without the plastic. At my age, I'm finding that the plastic can hide a lot.

[sb1]

While I can't say with certainty, I would venture there is a pretty good chance that the buyer knew the past of this card and bought it with that knowledge, maybe not, but probably, he may be a board member for all I know.

I may be in the minority but I prefer the later version rather than the former, the corners "look" more natural and the paper on the back is gone. The card is trimmed either way and there's not much room to go lower on the grading scale than AUT, but the eye appeal has been improved in my opinion. Now, would I have spent a chunk of change on it, probably not, but if the price were right I would not condemn it to the uncollectible status.

As they say "it is what it is".

[sando69]

JustCollect...contacted the buyer to make sure he is still comfortable with the card given it's past

incredibly altruistic (or is it audacious? ) to do so AFTER the sale, when there were numerous prior opportunities to fully disclose it's recognized alterations (trimmed & artificial wear).

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by sando69

incredibly altruistic (or is it audacious? ) to do so AFTER the sale, when there were numerous prior opportunities to fully disclose it's history.

Its history? Who cares - it is what it is. But I'll try, since some of you have waxed nostalgic over the history of these little pieces of cardboard.

Even as Ty was becoming a modern-day legend up north in Detroit, a young man in North Carolina pulled this shiny, perfect card from a Drum [pack?]. He thought about giving it to his son, who he was certain would be thrilled, but was fairly sure the boy was actually the postman's, so instead stuck it in his wallet and took a drag off his cigarette, well on his way to lung cancer. The card had a wonderful life fitting for any board member's imagined fantasy nostalgia story, as the young man sat on it repeatedly for about a year, before he was finally pick pocketed while on a trip to New York City, by a Giants fan who had no appreciation for Ty Cobb.

This man glued the card into a scrapbook that contained paper items from wallets he had pilfered over the previous years. The scrapbook was lying in a box full of other worthless items, in the corner of a small closet in a rented apartment, when he left for his next prison stay. The box ended up in the basement of his brother, where it sat for decades as the house was passed from the indigent brother to his son, etc.,etc., each new owner of the home being as lazy as the last, additional boxes piled on top of this one as the years went by.

The house eventually ended up in the hands of two barren sisters who finally died with no heirs. The entire contents of the home were purchased at auction, the card discovered by the new owner, who had purchased the estate to get at a huge stash of liquor stored in the basement. After drinking a bottle of Evan Williams, he dug through the piles of boxes, found the scrapbook, ripped out the card and several days later, cut the top off with a pair of scissors, thinking it would look better and get more money on ebay.

The next owner opened the package, sighed in relief that it was real, and immediately consigned it to a major auction house.

At this point, the facts become hazy. But we do know that the card was then nostalgically sanded down at the top, soaked, put in a plastic slab, and nostalgically returned to ebay.

I'm getting teary-eyed with nostalgia.

[Blunder19]

I'm sorry.. but thats funny... and deserves a reply...
"Long Live the Ty Cobb Drum Back of the Barren Sisters"