T206 Drum Red Cobb on Ebay tonight

[Fred]

"If the non-water based glue was used, there's nothing that can be done other than send it to a conservator or chip at it, but you'll never get it all off.
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Scott, I'd beg to differ, I've gotten non-water based glue off of cards before, the only problem was that part of the card went with it...

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Fred

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Scott, I'd beg to differ, I've gotten non-water based glue off of cards before, the only problem was that part of the card went with it...

Fred- I think scissors would do that too . For the record, since Scott made the revelation (and I agree) that the back was only soaked and not re-drawn, I am more comfortable with the end product card. I would still prefer not to have the faked aged corners though. I think this most recent buyer actually got a pretty decent deal all things considered.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Leon

Fred- I think scissors would do that too . For the record, since Scott made the revelation (and I agree) that the back was only soaked and not re-drawn, I am more comfortable with the end product card. I would still prefer not to have the faked aged corners though. I think this most recent buyer actually got a pretty decent deal all things considered.

Yeah, I agree on all counts.

I't interesting for sure. If a card has its corners 'aged' manually over a span of minutes, even if it duplicates almost exactly what occurred on the other corners over a period of 100 years, it's tough to accept.

Is this any different from hand-cutting a Joe Jackson strip card in 2011, vs a kid cutting it out 100 years ago?

Malicious intent seems to be the key here.

[sb1]

Scott,

As to soaking, I have encountered very few card issues, other than photographic(i.e. Old Judge, T200, etc) that cannot be soaked without damage. I can't say what happened with the T205 you mention but that certainly sounds strange. All of the T and E issues of that era would have been produced with the same types of ink and paper.

You are correct though that not all types of glue are soakable, especially the dark brown horse glue. I won't go into all of the ins and outs of soaking as it's been tossed around in multiple threads before, but it's not rocket science and one certainly does not need a paper conservator or other online guru to soak 99% of the tobacco and caramel cards of that era. Most advisable to start with a dog and give it a try. Collectors have been soaking stamps and other scrapbook items for nearly a century with no ill effect on most. It's a whole lot better than the dummies that try to peel the cards out of an old time album and end up creasing them and removing part of the back. I cringe everytime I see one of those and just wish someone had the foresight to take the pages and just give'em a light bath.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by sb1

Scott,

As to soaking, I have encountered very few card issues, other than photographic(i.e. Old Judge, T200, etc) that cannot be soaked without damage. I can't say what happened with the T205 you mention but that certainly sounds strange. All of the T and E issues of that era would have been produced with the same types of ink and paper.

Thanks - very good to know. Not sure what I did wrong with the T205 - it happened to one of the first ones I attempted to soak, so I never tried it again.

[Runscott]

Regarding 'AUTH' qualifiers, I just found this one. Now this is funny...but a good idea - it's the same qualifier I will have later tonight during pool league:

T206 slabbed 'AUTH' Wagner

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My one and only time I soaked a card.