T206 - Doyle N.Y. Nat'l - info??

[barrysloate]

The jury is still out on these unintended printing glitches. They often sell for a lot of money, but not all serious T206 collectors embrace them. They differ from Doyle or Magie as they were not the result of a deliberate revision, but were caused by a foreign substance getting onto the plate and blocking a bit of the ink. Whether or not they are worth the money is subjective.

You're confusing genuine printing corrections with unintentional printing mishaps. Big difference.

[egbeachley]

The answer could be simply that after they fixed the Magee error, and the cost was submitted to the boss, they said "No more expensive fixes!"

[taborton101]

Here's my thought though...using the 'Dopner' one as just an example...the 'p' instead of an 'r' seems to be more than just a printing mishap caused by a foreign substance, etc. - PSA slabbed the 'p', so it would appear that the stone actually had 'Dopner' on it, and then later it was changed to 'Dorner' - ie, the 'p' was intentionally fixed to an 'r' at some point by the printer...so is this just an un-documented error that was intentionally corrected?...and, this is a '1 of 1', so apparently it's very rare...why isn't this talked about as much as Magie?...that's what I'd like to read more on...how did the Magie and Nat'l corrections become so legendary, when it would seem that there are other corrections that are similarly as rare, yet just weren't documented in the same way, for some reason...

[ullmandds]

the fact that psa slabbed it as such is meaningless!

[barrysloate]

Taborton (not your real name): I don't think that's true. First, as Peter mentioned, PSA are not experts. So forget about the label. I don't believe at all it was intentionally printed as Dopner and then corrected. I believe it's an "R" missing a serif. Again, I will defer to the board experts but I think that's the case.

[Abravefan11]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

I believe it's an "R" missing a serif.

Barry is correct. If one were to look at thousands of T206's noting every variance they will find many many examples of these printing defects. Some stand out more than others and a few like the Nodgrass have garnered more attention and a higher premium. Ultimately they are not variations like the Doyle and Magie.

[Abravefan11]

Originally Posted by steve B

Magie was a tougher fix, requiring the stone to be redone, or perhaps partly redone. If it was caught early, it might have been worth doing. I think the names were the only thing done in that brown color.

Steve B

The name/team captions were printed during the brown color run for the image. The two cards below are good examples that show when the brown color pass was out of registration it effected the caption as well as other parts of the image.